19-11-2003 21:33									#61
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Well, unless your a scientist there is no real need for Kelvin in the US.

In addition, many people here don't understand the celsius temp. scale either, Since we use the oh so inadequate farenheit system.

Now convert Farenheit to Celsius, that's a bit trickier

	20-11-2003 00:30									#62
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge Now convert Farenheit to Celsius, that's a bit trickier

Fortunately, we're not so foolish as to use Farenheit, so we don't need to convert it .

Of course, that's not really true. Every time I'm reading a book by an American author and a temperature is mentioned I get very confused (They complain that it's 105 degrees and I think "What? Their blood should be boiling!"). At least with most measurements you are forced to say what unit you're using but with Farenheit and Celsius you can get away with just "degrees".

I do remember noticing that the Tomb Raider IV demo was not of part of the real game - I didn't realise that they had claimed that it was.

	20-11-2003 01:01									#63
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[lie]outside my cave in wales i use seaweed to determine the temp

[true]my head hurts when i have to convert Farenheit into Celsius, and i only end up with a best guess(hot/warm/cold) why can't everyone just drive on the left side of the road?

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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway I do remember noticing that the Tomb Raider IV demo was not of part of the real game - I didn't realise that they had claimed that it was.

well the mag i got it of did

	20-11-2003 01:05									#65
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Silly Americans they claim to put a man on the moon but can’t show us pics of the landing site as it looks today

	20-11-2003 20:28									#66
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor why can't everyone just drive on the left side of the road?

Well, the right side of the road isn't called the right side without reason

	20-11-2003 22:17									#67
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yes but you cant fight off heavily armed space mutants driving on the other side easy like we can in Great Britain

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	20-11-2003 22:20									#68
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Well, one thing is for certain, You silly euros (and most of the rest of the world) have one major thing over the US:

the metric system is heads and tails adove the antiquated measurement systems that the U.S. uses. It is so much less mind boggling to use.

I mean 10 millimeters in a centimeter, 100 centimeters in a meter, 1000 milliliters in a liter, is so much easier than 16 ounces in a pound, 8 fluid ounces in a cup, 4 cups in a quart, 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard etc. etc.

The fact is that the US tried a gradual switch to the metric system back in the 70's and failed miserably. My assumption is that people were just having a hard time with the conversions (kilometers to miles etc.), and because of that gave up on it without realizing the many benefits that the metric system would have brought.

...That said, I WILL NEVER DRIVE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD!!!!!!!! ...even if I'm in Britain

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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge You silly euros

It is Europeans please don’t abbreviate or I will have to go around calling you a yank

beat you can't name 10 useful things invented in the USA

not the super market trolley is not a useful invention as every time I get one it goes down the wrong section.

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Oh come on Big Mc...

The telegraph, the assembly line, the submarine, the cotton gin, the elevator, typewriter, the airplane, nylon, the iron lung, photocopier, microwave oven, transistors, VIDEO GAMES, refrigerator, steamboat, color television, morse code, gas(petrol)pump, electric oven, dishwasher, integrated circuits etc. etc.

	20-11-2003 23:11									#71
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Submarine is French , as ir airplane. Transistors are stolen alien tehchnology.

	20-11-2003 23:21									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Submarine is French , as ir airplane.

Well I think that is a matter of intense debate ,

...I forgot to list one very important one: the internet.

	20-11-2003 23:26									#73
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As if we don't know nationality of the people behind the Internet .

	21-11-2003 00:53									#74
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge The telegraph, the assembly line, the submarine, the cotton gin, the elevator, typewriter, the airplane, nylon, the iron lung, photocopier, microwave oven, transistors, VIDEO GAMES, refrigerator, steamboat, color television, morse code, gas(petrol)pump, electric oven, dishwasher, integrated circuits etc. etc.

I suppose that at least half of the cited discoveries have been made by European immigrants...

	21-11-2003 01:18									#75
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Airplane is not American the person who invented the wing was English and several other Europeans gave over ideas and in fact all the right brother did was get one of the ground and back in one piece

microwave oven British again second world war radar technology alteration

transistors designed in British even doe the first one was made in usa

steamboat didn’t the British invent the system engine

and I am not to keen on some of your other so called American invention

	21-11-2003 01:33									#76
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Okay, Okay calm down everybody... don't go on a witch hunt for the filthy yank

Every American has ties to other parts of the world, thus the reason it's called a "melting pot."

You wanted to know some useful American inventions, so I gave a partial list (emphasis on partial )... debate it if you want, but I stand by it

	21-11-2003 01:43									#77
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of inventions of other nationality including democracy

You had to buy the jet engine, radar and supersonic flight at the end of world war2

	21-11-2003 02:02									#78
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Don't get so much off topic

How about you discuss about technologies that are playable in CTP2, instead?

	21-11-2003 13:35									#79
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That's what they have been doing.

Shall Americans get an extra steal technology bonus ?

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were taking about how in world war 2 the Americans sucked most of Europe dry then got involved way to late (note only 7 Americans were involved in the battle for Britain and only 1 died)

and how America got most of there tech form European scientist or bought from European countries

this chat is on topic we can investigate real world tech trading and then work out a model to implement it with ctp it also covers some countries use of propaganda

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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc were taking about how in world war 2 the Americans sucked most of Europe dry then got involved way to late (note only 7 Americans were involved in the battle for Britain and only 1 died)

Actually, I didn't realize that was what we were talking about.

...but perhaps at the time America just felt that it wasn't their responsibilty to mop up the mess that you guys made...

	21-11-2003 20:05									#82
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As usual it was them creating it in the first place!

Now guess how

	21-11-2003 20:07									#83
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umm, a figment of imagination?

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Speaking of technologies, I've been 'playing' the debug build of the vanilla game. First time in years I've played the vanilla game and, hmm, the technology tree needs work. Immortal Wombat started a thread about designing the perfect technology tree a couple of years ago, but I can't find it. So, what do you think?

	21-11-2003 20:12									#85
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Thanks for the much needed break Peter

...but sorry I don't have any ideas, I'm an American

	21-11-2003 20:12									#86
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge umm, a figment of imagination?

No, with fighting a terror war against your government

Peter,

any suggestions for the tech tree? Shall we make the game longer (more turns) and strech the ages more?

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quote: Originally posted by Gilgamensch As usual it was them creating it in the first place! Now guess how

by allowing Hitler in

the Nazi party was losing up to the point when wall street when bang

	21-11-2003 21:10									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs Immortal Wombat started a thread about designing the perfect technology tree a couple of years ago, but I can't find it.

IIRC it was somewhere like the Civ General forum, bt I can't find it there now...

	21-11-2003 21:27									#89
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Guys, why the anti-american attitudes? I'm serious. What has America done to you or your countries that would result in these ignorant statements/bashings?

France and Britain have for a very long time been close allies with the USA. I have personally never been witness to anti-americanism by people from your countries, until I began to come to Apolyton. To be honest I find it somewhat disturbing. Espescially since many of the statements seem unfounded. Please try to explain it in a logical way that my pea-sized American brain can understand

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centrifuge,

don't be afraid: We won't harm you

And for WWII, if America wouldn't have rebelled against the Commenwealth. Their would have never been a WWI or II

And again there is a difference again Americans and the American government. One problem is, that America for many years promoted democracy and were the last one to destroy those principles against their so called allies. That's maybe one reason, why so many Europeans are a bit annoyed with America. (beside some other reasons, like you mentioned miles/km's and similar.....allthough that's true for the Brit's as well .....but at least they can normally convert those figures..........)