12-02-2004 13:34									#241
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	12-02-2004 17:36									#242
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I guess Spain might consider peace at this point, are you suggesting a cease of hostilities? Your side gained two cities our side gained two cities, seems like a fair draw to me.

I was rather more thinking that Spain returns the 2 French cities and is allowed to continue to exist. As England persuaded France into the attack on the Dutch I cannot accept any settlement that leaves France worse off than before Spain's aggression.

Unless you are ready to invade England as well?

	12-02-2004 18:33									#243
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	12-02-2004 18:55									#244
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Unless you are ready to invade England as well?

Since you have invited us it would be rude to turn down your offer.

The Spanish towns of Lyons and Marseilles will not be handed over to the atheistic French. They can found their own towns.

	13-02-2004 02:10									#245
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	13-02-2004 08:36									#246
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV I was rather more thinking that Spain returns the 2 French cities and is allowed to continue to exist. As England persuaded France into the attack on the Dutch I cannot accept any settlement that leaves France worse off than before Spain's aggression.

Which two are you talking about?

The English heathens speak strong words for cowardly dogs who refuse to fight. They doth seem quite ferocious barking at their betters from across the English Channel.

I hath heard noy one peep of further heresy from the French heretics. Hath they seen the error of their ways? The Church is prepared to embrace the Repentatent.


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	13-02-2004 09:08									#247
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I hath heard noy one peep of further heresy from the French heretics. Hath they seen the error of their ways? The Church is prepared to embrace the Repentatent.

Embrace this!!!

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	13-02-2004 09:14									#248
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I really do feel sorry for France, England just left you to fend for your little lonesome against Spain and her Conquistidors.

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	13-02-2004 17:47									#250
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Ok - I acknowledge I am getting my butt kicked here - but there is something that is really unclear to me - and I need to figure it out before I play the next turn.

It says Conquistadors treat all terrain as is if it was roaded. Ok - I can understand that. But does that also apply to foreign territory. In other words - can you move 3 spaces for each mp through my territory.

For instance - I cannot figure out how you made some of your moves this turn. And last turn when you captured my worker, pillaged a tile, and were still able to withdraw.

Can someone help here.

	13-02-2004 18:17									#251
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Yes, ATR means each tile in foreign territory only takes 1/3 of a movement point. Capturing a worker or pillaging a tile takes 1 movement point.

So a conquistador can move onto the tile across the border, capture a worker or pillage the tile, and get back to friendly territory in one turn.

The answer to conquistadors is build fortresses with barricades on the border and kill the invaders with knights. Unfortunately France did not have time to put these measures in place.


It is also worth remembering here that the conquistador has triggered Spain's GA. The Portuguese start in a GA thanks to Dias's Voyage. France needs Gunpowder for musketeers whilst the English need Piracy to build the sea dog to trigger their GA's.

	13-02-2004 19:14									#252
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Yes, the Conquistidors treat all terrain as road in enemy territory. They are amphibious in this scenario. And I also had an idea that Engand/France were up to something so I built a lot of them.

Each attack by a Conquistidor takes on full movement point. Each move takes 1/3 per tile so if I move one tile and attack I can still move 2/3 or two tiles before my movement is expended.

And yes both Portugal and Spain are in their Golden Ages now. Course Spain triggered her Golden Age a few turns before we attacked France on an Incan scout.

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	13-02-2004 21:25									#253
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The Dutch GA will come when we found New Amsterdam.

	14-02-2004 19:53									#254
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Did you win a battle with your Swiss Pikemen already?

	16-02-2004 06:46									#255
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Cerb and GF - thanks for clarifying. Wish I knew this before I played the last two turns.

Ah well - chalk one up to experience. Let's see what I can do with this mess.

My apologies for the delay folks. I was out of twon for the weekend, and needed this matter cleared up before I could play any further.

	16-02-2004 08:49									#256
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Yeah, you kinda got tricked into this war by Britain. France really shouldn't start a ground war in Europe cause it can leave its back door open. Britain has that nice island fortress however. (Kinda like real life.)

Spain is willing to make nicey nice with France if France wishes to open negotiations.

	16-02-2004 14:31									#257
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Yeah, you kinda got tricked into this war by Britain. France really shouldn't start a ground war in Europe cause it can leave its back door open. Britain has that nice island fortress however. (Kinda like real life.) Spain is willing to make nicey nice with France if France wishes to open negotiations.

I really didn't expect Spain to be so stupid. If Spain now wants peace they had better hurry up as the clock is ticking.

	17-02-2004 04:20									#258
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I have to find a replacement player or someone can just "retire" my civ from the game. More details here.

	17-02-2004 09:05									#259
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Save to Cerb. Sorry for the dealy in playing. Had to think this one through - and was away for the weekend.

GF - get your computer fixed and get back here. France wants revenge - or do you want to talk nice.

	18-02-2004 01:39									#260
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England has heard rumours of some French mystic making prophecies like "before and after, war reigns happily". We are wondering how he knows?

	18-02-2004 19:51									#261
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The Dutch have settled the New World! Fort Amsterdam is nestled in a magnificent bay with tremendous views. Time to plant those gardens.

Gunpowder is a mere 76 turns away.

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	19-02-2004 00:06									#262
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SirOsis, The Maya have sent you some alms....not really that much, since we are a poor nation after all.

	19-02-2004 01:07									#263
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quote: Originally posted by Beta GF - get your computer fixed and get back here. France wants revenge - or do you want to talk nice.

I got a friend who is getting their Civ3 cd and bringing it back from pass this weekend. Hopefully I can play pbems then.

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His Holiness the Pope personally oversaw the interrogation of the King of France. Though the King's soul was so blackened with evil that he could not be saved. Only the Duke of Bordeaux, last of Satan's French minions continues to fight with the glorious church of our Lord and Saviour.

Furthermore, in this year did the last of the Incas willfully convert to the righteous faith of the holy church.

	22-02-2004 14:00									#265
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	22-02-2004 19:34									#266
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb 1500 sent to Tweedledee. His Holiness the Pope personally oversaw the interrogation of the King of France. Though the King's soul was so blackened with evil that he could not be saved. Only the Duke of Bordeaux, last of Satan's French minions continues to fight with the glorious church of our Lord and Saviour. Furthermore, in this year did the last of the Incas willfully convert to the righteous faith of the holy church.

We, the French, liked you much better when your computer was broken.

But, since the mantle was thrown down by the rampaging stinking Spaniards, I say who's side is god on, when Paris was so easily retaken?

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	22-02-2004 20:56									#267
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The English have kicked off a friendly international soccer match in Seville.

Half time score is English Hooligans 3 - His Holiness's Spanish Invitation XI 0.

Match reports suggest poor Spanish defending led to them being overwhelmed by a ferocious English attack. With English substitutions likely the second half promises to be a bloody encounter.

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	22-02-2004 21:12									#268
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quote: Originally posted by Beta We, the French, liked you much better when your computer was broken. But, since the mantle was thrown down by the rampaging stinking Spaniards, I say who's side is god on, when Paris was so easily retaken?

I ran out of fast moving troops.

quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV The English have kicked off a friendly international soccer match in Seville. Half time score is English Hooligans 3 - His Holiness's Spanish Invitation XI 0. Match reports suggest poor Spanish defending led to them being overwhelmed by a ferocious English attack. With English substitutions likely the second half promises to be a bloody encounter.

Well, I was concerned you would take Seville, but you had to bring quite a few ships to have taken it, as two ships wouldn't have brought enough troops to pull if off.

	23-02-2004 01:12									#269
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Well, I was concerned you would take Seville, but you had to bring quite a few ships to have taken it, as two ships wouldn't have brought enough troops to pull if off.

You were down to a fortified Longbowman in Seville. You might have had an unfortified MI or Conquistador in there as well but a pikeman. even an unfortified regular, would have shown as the top unit. Can you cover everywhere? I don't think so.

	23-02-2004 02:58									#270
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