14-01-2004 11:41									#301
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Status of Game 2?

	14-01-2004 12:22									#302
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quote: Originally posted by Soltz Status of Game 2?

Somebody needs to wake up rogerub and have him send Octavian X his password.

Also, we should all be on the same page with version numbers. I think E_T said he is playing unpatched. The program may seem to run fine, but I think it will be using different formulas to calculate corruption, among other things. In this case, I think this might only hurt E_T. Still, it doesn't seem good practice to have players using different rules in the same game.

For the same reason, everyone should keep a version of 1.12 available to play turns with, until we all agree to upgrade (probably with the official patch next month).

	14-01-2004 12:39									#303
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Well I feel we should only be using the official patches.

And I believe that it was agreed quite early on that we would use the 1.12 Beta patch....

w have a lot of patches here now

	14-01-2004 12:44									#304
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also thought it was agreed to use 1.12, which most people i find are using anyway.

think after that we should wait for official patch, even if it is a month & 1/2 away.

	14-01-2004 13:07									#305
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Yes we should wait for an official non-beta patch. I'm fed up with beta testing and won't play a turnament under these conditions.

	14-01-2004 17:22									#306
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We could have each game, choses which patch to use...

I haven't tried the beta patch yet, so I don't know if it works, but I'll try it out today (I hope)

	14-01-2004 17:41									#307
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I'm using the 1.12 Beta and it seems OK but I don't want to use another beta patch after that one, I'd rather wait for the full patch to come out.

	15-01-2004 00:20									#308
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quote: Originally posted by Octavian X Crap, I did mess those time zones up. When your studying for a math final while staring at those time zone numbers, your initial instinct is to put them in the correct numerical order, rather than the time zone. Still, that's no excuse for the mistake I made, and I offer my most humble apoligies. I've no object to GhengisFarb taking Sir Ralph's place, if they both agree to it. Sir Ralph, I encourage you to take GF's spot in Game 2 (CORRECTLY arranged according to timezone). Tarquinius and rogerurb will have one more day to send in a password, due mainly to the fact I'm unable to properly create a map at this moment. Otherwise, they will be replaced.

OctX, is it possible for you to fix the order of play for our game, or is it just to late to do that now?? Only myself and BF have played and We are having Issues with me getting e-mail to SirRalph.

E_T

	15-01-2004 00:34									#309
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Are you saying you can't send email to SirRalph? What's the problem exactly?

	15-01-2004 00:56									#310
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Yes we should wait for an official non-beta patch. I'm fed up with beta testing and won't play a turnament under these conditions.

AFAIK, the newer patches are mostly fine tuning corruption formulas, but 1.12 was a clear improvement over 1.00 and has been stable so far. Are you finding problems with the 1.12 patch, Sir Ralph? Does corruption impact your strategy over the first 60 or so turns?

If not, we can get a big jump on the official patch by starting now, provided everyone uses 1.12.

	15-01-2004 01:14									#311
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The emails should get through now. The game is doomed to be one of my slowest, though.

I don't use neither 1.0, nor 1.12, nor 1.13, nor 1.15 for epic games, and won't in the near future. I put the game on the shelf. I will play it again after it's out of the beta phase. For the tournament I'm playing 1.12, as was agreed to.

	15-01-2004 01:41									#312
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quote: Originally posted by ADG We do have enough players for a 5th game: Game 5: Beta SAMUEL2904 Conqueror (GMT +2) conqueror AT mbnet DOT fi) Master Zen Still missing timezones and emails from 3 of the players though... oh, and send the wanted Password to Octavian X

Just PM'ed Game 5 players about these things, anxious to get the Game 5 going too

	15-01-2004 02:10									#313
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Good... I was about to PM then as I posted it... but somehow I forgot

	15-01-2004 11:04									#314
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Patch: I only started using 1.12 after it was apparent that it didn't have any bugs. Now, since I'm not really liking the changes they made to corruption calculations in 1.15, I'm waiting for the next patch. As I understand, there isn't any conflict with players using 1.12 and 1.00.

Timezone issue: So long as this thing is stalled, how far has game 4 gotten? Would there be any objections to just stopping the game and starting over again? I wouldn't mind creating a new map.

Status report:
Game 1 will probably start tomorrow, since that's when my semester finals end . Tarquinius is dropped, and Conqueror, the only other player to have sent me a password, will be his replacement.

Game 2 will start when I get another password sent to me. The next person who sends me a password will be considered rogerub's replacement.

Game 4, if it's participants have no objection, will be restarted.

Game 5 will be organized once I get yet some more passwords.

	15-01-2004 11:22									#315
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Put me down for a game if you need someone. conmcb25 AT bluemarble.net GMT -5 Play in late evenings and occassionally guring the day.

Jeez does a guy got to beg to get in a game around here?

Password to Oct_X

Game 2 or 5 or 6 is fine by me. Just let me know which one and when to start.

	15-01-2004 11:24									#316
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I have an objection to restarting game 4.

	15-01-2004 11:38									#317
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Octavian, Game 3 is under control and all players are happy. Thanks again for all of your effort in this.

	15-01-2004 11:55									#318
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I don't have an objection to restart game 4.

	15-01-2004 12:23									#319
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I have an objection to restarting game 4.

Let the good times roll.... I thought we were here to play the game.

edit: I agree with Big Free

	15-01-2004 13:01									#320
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It won't roll. It will crawl and eventually die. Mark my words.

	15-01-2004 13:06									#321
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Playing these games going against the flow of the working day makes no sense at all.

	15-01-2004 13:09									#322
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Game 3 is fine, btw. I am usually up later, so I can pass back over the big pond.

	15-01-2004 14:33									#323
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph It won't roll. It will crawl and eventually die. Mark my words.

Mark my words: It won't die on my account.

	15-01-2004 16:06									#324
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Updated player list:

Game 1:
ADG (GMT + 1) a_grau AT hotmail DOT com
Conqueror (GMT +2) conqueror AT mbnet DOT fi)
Rommel2D (GMT - 6) jwala AT fastmail DOT fm
predesad (GMT - 6) predesad AT yahoo DOT com

Game 2:
Soltz (GMT - 8) jsosiak AT shaw DOT ca
GhengisFarb (GMT - 6)
rogerurb (GMT) rogerurb AT netvisao DOT pt
Iron Jackson (GMT +1) warrenlynch AT gmx DOT de

Game 3:
Wittlich (GMT - 8) wittlich AT sbcglobal DOT net
smellymummy (GMT - 7) sm AT inethighway DOT com
notyoueither (GMT - 7) notyoueither AT hotmail DOT com
CerberusIV (GMT) CerberusIVciv3 AT aol DOT com

Game 4:
BigFree (GMT - 8) bigfree1 AT comcast DOT net
Sir Ralph (GMT + 1) sirralph AT gmx DOT com
E_T () royparrish AT earthlink DOT net
Paddy the Scot (GMT + 11) paddythescot AT hotmail DOT com

Game 5:
Beta (GMT - 5) brucehynes57 AT rogers DOT com
SAMUEL2904 (GMT - 6) samuel2904 AT hotmail DOT com
Master Zen
Arnelos (GMT -5)

Game 6:
SirOsis sirosis AT hotmail DOT com
Trampler.se (GMT + 1) trampler_civ3 AT yahoo DOT com
conmcb25 (GMT - 5) conmcb25 AT bluemarble DOT net

Dropped players: (Missing to send their password within the timelimit
Tarquinius (GMT + 1) redmar_damsma AT hotmail DOT com

Last edited by Adagio on 15-01-2004 at 18:34

	15-01-2004 16:09									#325
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Mark my words: It won't die on my account.

Neither on mine, but if it goes downhill due to snail pace, I will make little effort to save it.

	15-01-2004 17:34									#326
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I would like to have this also go as smoothly as possible, BUT, I also know that BF is up later than I am, and with the weird scheaduales that Paddy and I both have, I really don't think that it would have any real effect if we go the other way.

Lets give this 5 turns or so to see how it works out. BUT, To OctX, I reserve the right to ask for a time change, If it turns out to be too much of a problem.

E_T

	15-01-2004 17:39									#327
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Well it is 11.38pm here, I see that Sir Ralph is on line now, and I am here so we can move this along another turn at least.

	15-01-2004 17:39									#328
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We can't, because I am at work

	15-01-2004 17:43									#329
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ah, I know that feeling oh so well....

	15-01-2004 21:45									#330
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What happened to the Sir Ralph/GhengisFarb game swap idea? Wouldn't that clean up the turn order without a restart?