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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:32
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"change it around and it still applies."
No, it does not. You very rarerly here the same type of whining on US issues.
"They are PUBLIC schools, paid for by public money,"
Dont Moslems pay taxes too?
"It's a democracy, after all."
Yes, and democraticaly elected governments in the South denied Blacks the better public schools. Just because a democracy decides to do it with regard to a public institution does not make it right?
"Now that many Jewish students have suffered physical or verbal agressions in France, it has suddenly become religiously OK to wear anything on your head according to the French Jewish school directors, skullcaps merely covering the minimal required surface."
I doubt this would be the case though for all Jewish people, especially Orthodox Jews, that none would want to wear attire indicating their Jewish status.
"BTW, I'd like you to quote the Coran on the religious obligation to wear a scarf. I'm listening."
It is not my interpretation of the Moslem faith nor Chiracs interpretation of the Moslem faith. If the families concerned believe Islam requires the hijaab, as most religious Moslems do, then they should be allowed to follow their conscious and wear it, and they should not be discriminated against for their choice.
"Although this is unlikely, this will most probably depend on the teacher.
In general, teachers like to have uncovered students in front of them, but they can individually decide to tolerate it from religious people, rather than ratting them out or force them to uncover."
And if the religious Jews are required to be uncovered, it will be a grave instance of discrimination.
"find inexistant weapons."
We do not know they are inexsistant. The search for WMDs have been severely hampered by the insurgency.
"Good thing you're not here, Ned. Quoting from Mein Kampf is not done, and could get you in serious trouble."
Yes, fortunately Ned has more freedom of speech then that.
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LDiCesare
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:32
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But, all this shows is that Bush acted primarily to defend the US (and France), not to liberate Iraq. Had the US, or the world for that matter, been TRULY concerned over the plight of the Iraqi people, it would have acted in '91 when it had the opportunity. |
Shows he lied about his reasons when asking us to support him. There's no reason we would accept that. Also bear in mind that France didn't see Iraq as a threat and therefore had no reason to do anything on this ground.
The excuse of the insurgency preventing the discovery is a joke. It just shows that the war was no better there than the inspectors.
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As to you Frenchmen, the things you have said about demonstrations of others "faith" as being offensive and un-Frenchlike sounds to the untrained ear exactly like what Hitler had to say about the Jews who dressed like Jews - they were not German. The attitude is virtually identical. |
As for me, I never said demonstrating others faith looked offensive, but that exposing one's faith verges proselytism. If peole want to proselytise or show they are of a given faith or have certain opinions, it's ok for them to do so.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by LDiCesare
Shows he lied about his reasons when asking us to support him. There's no reason we would accept that. Also bear in mind that France didn't see Iraq as a threat and therefore had no reason to do anything on this ground.
The excuse of the insurgency preventing the discovery is a joke. It just shows that the war was no better there than the inspectors. |
How did Bush lie? He openly said that the reason we had to go to war with Saddam was too disarm him because he was a threat not only to international peace but to the United States.
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As for me, I never said demonstrating others faith looked offensive, but that exposing one's faith verges proselytism. If peole want to proselytise or show they are of a given faith or have certain opinions, it's ok for them to do so. |
That is somewhat how we think in the United States. It does not seem to be the prevailing view in France though where there appears to be a premium on cultural uniformity and indeed cultural purity.
Last edited by Ned on 24-12-2003 at 03:51
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Hint: what happened in Europe in the years 1939-1945? |
under rug swept.
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Dr Strangelove
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Say! Maybe we should have a "Top Ten Depravities of the Past Quarter Millenium" thread!
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23-12-2003 22:50
poor troll, ned. you could've at least replaced Linz.
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sick comment.
Ah yes... the old if someone questions anything about Nazi Germany they are an anti-semite rag. That is the problem with banning things. It leads to such irrational discussion.
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