10-03-2004 20:47									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician you mean in an independent single player game with cheat mode ? sure, thats just what i did.

There's a method too... cool.

That actually sounds easier than what I was thinking.

	11-03-2004 00:03									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician being involuntarily offline since friday, id like to ask for 24h rule only when nothing is known about the online status of that player.

Well, think about what you just typed Math..LOOKIE at it...

24 hour rule if nothing is known...

Ok..so for instance I send to J BYTHEWAY..and for some reason his isp is down..how long do we wait before it goes forwarded?

Ok..if someone is on vacation..such as when I go to build a church in May in Honduras for 9 days..does the 24 hour rules get used then..if not do you folks wait for my return or pass on me?

So lets say one notifies everyone here that they will be away for a 3 day weekend and their turn comes up, what happens then? Pass of play on thru or stall

Just asking so we are not waiting to find out where someone is..because if I am not mistaking the rules..thats WHY we have a 24 hour rule to begin with..correct?

Just trying to get it straight so that we dont pick & choose when to enforce and when not to..

Thanks

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	11-03-2004 00:28									#153
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We almost have to not enforce it until turn 5 just because of the free tech issue, but after that it's usually handled on a case-by-case basis.

Vacations in the summer, for instance, are plentiful among a lot of the players so why just have a few faithfuls who don't go out get ahead because their opponents are nexted?

Most of us have enough games that we're always playing at least one, if not three every night (I know I do.)

That means a couple, to me, being delayed doesn't matter. Unfortunately that also means that players with less games running are going to start poking the heck out of the few games they are in and get disgruntled, quit, and shrink the turn-player pool that much more.

I know, for instance, that Channel Hoppers and Chicken Run move so slowly it's not even funny, but since I'm in so many other games I don't notice and therefore don't mind the tardiness...

As far as enforcing/not enforcing the 24h rule, generally its a player vote for the varying games and the moderator can follow through.

	11-03-2004 01:07									#154
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash We almost have to not enforce it until turn 5 just because of the free tech issue, but after that it's usually handled on a case-by-case basis. Vacations in the summer, for instance, are plentiful among a lot of the players so why just have a few faithfuls who don't go out get ahead because their opponents are nexted? Most of us have enough games that we're always playing at least one, if not three every night (I know I do.) That means a couple, to me, being delayed doesn't matter. Unfortunately that also means that players with less games running are going to start poking the heck out of the few games they are in and get disgruntled, quit, and shrink the turn-player pool that much more. I know, for instance, that Channel Hoppers and Chicken Run move so slowly it's not even funny, but since I'm in so many other games I don't notice and therefore don't mind the tardiness... As far as enforcing/not enforcing the 24h rule, generally its a player vote for the varying games and the moderator can follow through.

ok...so its not a rule..or even a guideline...but merely a suggestive parameter open to interpretation by votes & moderator discretion..not necessarily binding ties..

Ok..just wanted to know what kinda poker game we be running here

I mean..as long as the general feel is anything goes then kewl by me..if not..SEMPER GUMBY..(ever flexible) and take yer chances..

I am kewl 4 now

Rock on!

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	11-03-2004 01:10									#155
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* FlameFlash nods.

The ideal is to get it out in 24h and there's usually talk of actually enforcing it, but from my experience that's been about it.

Every once and a while I'll find myself nexted, but that's it.

	11-03-2004 01:17									#156
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash * FlameFlash nods. The ideal is to get it out in 24h and there's usually talk of actually enforcing it, but from my experience that's been about it. Every once and a while I'll find myself nexted, but that's it.

Im cool Flameflash..I just like the rules.

Like if you and I agree to not war for "X" turns then you attack me...I have absolutely no problem ending game.

Reason behind this?

I am honorable and agree to terms and thus we play such a game.

I just dont want to say be working several nights in a row and miss my turn only to find that because I dont have the Moderator's ear or for that matter anyone elses, I find myself nexted.

I will play what rules we agree with..

Just let me know what rules are subject to enforcement and what are perhaps..how do the Southerners with their innocent drawl put it..a BLUE LAW??

Ok on with the regularly scheduled programming!!

	11-03-2004 14:14									#157
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maybe i should have just asked for 48h rule then.
i just wanted to save the time in case of players not caring about the game anymore, not responding to email or anything.

alright, i say 48h rule then (and hope most turns will get done within 24h nonetheless)

	11-03-2004 23:53									#158
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where is the turn?

I think Dimytes had it..not sure..Bumparellaooski...


Lets pick up the ball and score another turn folks

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	12-03-2004 05:39									#159
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...sending a message in a bottle to anyone help me find the turn..

Bump aruskie

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	12-03-2004 05:46									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician maybe i should have just asked for 48h rule then. i just wanted to save the time in case of players not caring about the game anymore, not responding to email or anything. alright, i say 48h rule then (and hope most turns will get done within 24h nonetheless)

I dun think thats possible...

I dun think its enforceable...

I dun see it happeneing..
Look at posts above by Flame



Flash

He never seen it enforced so the way I look at it..

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	12-03-2004 10:48									#161
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I have played my turn and sent it to Mathemagician.

I'm going away for 4 days and will not be able to play any turns until Tuesday.

	12-03-2004 14:40									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll I dun think thats possible... I dun think its enforceable... I dun see it happeneing.. Look at posts above by Flame

alright, so what do you think IS possible ?
if i got this right you were supporting a 24h rule last time. apparently you thought that was possible. so why dont you think a 48h rule will be possible ?

quote: Originally posted by Dimytes I have played my turn and sent it to Mathemagician.

i sent it on to Protoss 2 days ago already.

	12-03-2004 16:05									#163
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turn -1- sent tp J Bytheway


The reason i didnt think it was possible Math is because of thelack of response..actually 1 person ,Flameflash in a discusscussion..( ) other than you and other than I no support..

Peace

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	12-03-2004 16:15									#164
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Turn 1 to Dymites

I'm quite happy with the 24h rule (I've already chosen my tech...). I think the hardest part about it is getting the moderator to enforce it.

	12-03-2004 17:47									#165
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assuming most turns will go faster than that, i would really like to make the absolute limit 48h.

okay, so let me collect the votes again...

time limit ?

24h - 2 votes (Troll, J.Bytheway)
48h - 1 vote (Math)

	12-03-2004 19:53									#166
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* FlameFlash shrugs.

I say case-by-case, but then I've got enough games that I'm never bored on a given evening for lack of PBEM turns to play...

If there has to be one, I'd say have Hatschy resend the turn at 24h and then at 48 next if arrangements weren't made prior (like in the I'm not here thread).

Hatschy, you're subbed to that thread, right?

	13-03-2004 00:35									#167
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash * FlameFlash shrugs. I say case-by-case, but then I've got enough games that I'm never bored on a given evening for lack of PBEM turns to play... If there has to be one, I'd say have Hatschy resend the turn at 24h and then at 48 next if arrangements weren't made prior (like in the I'm not here thread). Hatschy, you're subbed to that thread, right?

Yep!
I think, this is the way to go. I'll look for an OFT turn in my inbox every evening (European time). If I don't find one, I'll resend the last I received. If I still don't find a newer turn the next day, I'll next the player causing the stall.
If you know you are going to be away for some days, please try to find a temporary sub or fill your build queues .

	13-03-2004 02:02									#168
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sounds fair to me

	13-03-2004 02:06									#169
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..and we didnt even have to smoke 'em da peace-pipe

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	14-03-2004 02:29									#170
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Hm, the turn is with Dimytes now, but he is away until Tuesday. Since it would be unfair to next players during the first five turns, I think it's time for the first exception to the rule I posted above. I hope you all can wait until Tuesday.

Btw, I didn't receive a single turn today. No SuperLeague, no Challenge Ladder, no PBEM, nothing !

	15-03-2004 21:28									#171
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Heh... well, I was away unexpectedly this weekend, so that's why you didn't see anything from me.

	16-03-2004 21:46									#172
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I'm back btw, turn sent to Mathemagician yesterday (Monday). I got home 1 day earlier than expected.

And next time I'm going to try to remembr to CC the moderator also...

©Dimytes 2004

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	17-03-2004 14:10									#173
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havent received anything on monday.
maybe you'll want to cc the player too.

	17-03-2004 17:00									#174
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician havent received anything on monday. maybe you'll want to cc the player too.

	18-03-2004 01:28									#175
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Don't laugh, your ENEMY got your turn.

I often seem to forget to change adress when replying on turns.

©Dimytes 2004

	18-03-2004 03:06									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes Don't laugh, your ENEMY got your turn. I often seem to forget to change adress when replying on turns. ©Dimytes 2004

I didnt think I had any enemies

	18-03-2004 08:51									#177
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I think 'opponent' would be a better term here...

	18-03-2004 17:08									#178
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turn received. will play after work, but can send only at work, so please dont next me just yet.

	18-03-2004 19:22									#179
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turn 2 off to Captain Protoss

	19-03-2004 20:02									#180
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Dimytes: If you forward, rather than replying, then you'll be forced to enter a new address.