17-02-2004 07:38									#151
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Yes and I for one have the hopes that Lego does just that with some calvs.

If not, then maybe a shot will come up for RP todo it. We can just do a mission impossible and deny any part in it, while defend Stormia.

We will just have to see how things shake out, but I am like T, I am only thinking of winning. At least until the fat lady gets up to sing.

	19-02-2004 22:19									#152
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We got a note from MZ here .

It doesn't sound like they think they can be ready in time, so it seems that Lego are going to be heading off into the sunset.

	19-02-2004 22:54									#153
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Crap

Well, at the very least we have gone a long way towards mending fences and setting an anti-lego policy. The trick will be to make sure it stands until we can do a naval invasion via marines.

I think this actually might be good for us. One of my fears was disemboweling lego quickly, maybe 30 turns before marines, then the focus being shifted to us. Now the focus upon the advent of marines has to be lego, not us.

Crap.

	20-02-2004 00:35									#154
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Conflict or not, as long as we stick to a no tect to Lego deal between us and Bobians, it wil be helpful.

	20-02-2004 05:57									#155
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel One of my fears was disemboweling lego quickly, maybe 30 turns before marines, then the focus being shifted to us. Now the focus upon the advent of marines has to be lego, not us.

Yes, I'd thought that too.

	20-02-2004 06:03									#156
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I never really shared that concern. I was doubious that it was going to be that easy to wipe Lego out.

	20-02-2004 08:03									#157
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I wonder if GS-ND-GoW could, erm, persuade Vox not to give their freebie to Lego. Do Vox have a sea wall?

In fact, a nice little beach-head that would be on Lego ...

	20-02-2004 08:16									#158
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Actually, I seriously doubt that vox could handle a total sea wall since they are 1. a republic 2. running at greater than 10% science.

And I doubt that vox has a ship picket or two, they probably disbanded their ships after landing, its not like they are going anyplace.

Great idea CH.

GoW invades Vox (probably landing on mountains without a turns notice from Vox. And vox probably doesn't have any muskets or knights.

Lego would have to help vox out, otherwise they lose out on the vox free tech. Of course this would have to happen a bit before ~10 turns, when lego enters the new age and presumably catches vox up.


GoW could make Vox an offer they can't refuse. Imagine if they land 30 cavs on the shore and send a note to vox saying that either they are allowed safe passage through to Invoice or they will be destroyed. Now that would set them up for a possible ambush if Vox relented, but 30 cavs would draw maybe half of lego's forces off the wall, allowing both us and ND to land.


I like it.

	20-02-2004 10:22									#159
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Me too.

	20-02-2004 13:00									#160
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I thought of that earlier, but didn't mention it as it is not nearly as easy as it seems. First of all, they don't need a full sea wall, similar to Lego they don't need to protect that inner sea. 1 lookout will gain them 10 units. So, about 25 units are needed for full coverage of their coast.

25 units.. and how many did we let them have on the Voxodus? 15? more? they could have easily build those, especially as they can go without iron, and only build spears and warriors. And the support costs are reasonable, they have 10 cities, and are using sea for commerce.

But even assuming Vox does not have it's coast covered, is it that easy to threaten them? Their land is very rocky, easily defendable. Lego doens't need to do much, if they send 10 muskets, the 30 cavs force seems little at once. And 10 muskets can be instantly replaced in GA, that's about 1 turn production... once they figure Vox, or they are under attack, they will shift towards war, so we won't get any chance of invading spots in the wall.

So... I'm sceptic to this, I don't think it will work.

DeepO

	20-02-2004 16:06									#161
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It could be explained to Vox that the rest of the world feels, quite strongly, that Lego don't really need Vox's free tech to be in with a shout. Au contraire, it would probably tip the balance to Lego's certain victory. Vox could be assured that the coalition would "not forget" Vox's role in finalising Legonian Hegemony.

	20-02-2004 19:35									#162
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Vox could be offered a greater part of lego land. And if things went awry they could be transplanted in southern bob or something. GoW is good at this stuff, they could spin it into a new chance for vox to actually win this thing ( )