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I don’t think they are big drinkers.


No, but the dope fiends are big eaters.

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And the initial worrying signs are that he is moving in the wrong directions with the composition of the squad. I argued last Sunday that it might be time to get really radical – given Clive just got his worst ever placing in the 6N I think it is perfect timing to sweep away the dead wood and bring in real youth – the Woods, Ellis and Smiths of this world.


But it's a decision that requires not only judgement but a real eye for potential, looking for players who - in terms of the next World Cup - are three years away from their best. Your suggestion a few weeks ago about blending is right - providing the experienced heads kept for the process are (a) earning their keep, and (b) the right people to teach.

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At my most cynical I almost think Clive wanted everything to fall apart so he had carte blanche to clean house after the tournament. But would he be that stupid?


He's being tested. And is he up to it?

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It was Dominici who got carded in the semi incidentally – and he seems to be yesterdays man now. What did he do this tournament except drop the ball over the try line?


Actually, I thought he retired after the World Cup.

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In all this though lets not get carried away – England are in absolute disarray and yet still came within three points of a very good French side in Paris.


Discovered hyperbole on your haunches in the airport dunny, hm?



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The beverages we are intoxicating ourselves with are more refined and sophisticated than the diuretic beers and ales you anglo-saxons are drinking all day long. :uttercontempt:


Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder!

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The big question is was Finbar’s birthday Tuesday or Wednesday?

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In absolute disarray? May be are you exaggerating a bit


A tiny bit.

But when a team loses the best lock in the world and replaces him with a young Bath chump – and the coach breaks up the best back row forward combination in the world deliberately right before we are due to face the second best combination in Paris, and then our entire front rwo seems suddenly more interested in pies than playing - I would say “disarray” fits the bill quite nicely.

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I prefer to think, and you know how honest I am, that the English players were peharps overwhelmed by the skill, power and talent of the French players for one hour.


How is the medication going by the way?

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The beverages we are intoxicating ourselves with are more refined and sophisticated than the diuretic beers and ales you anglo-saxons are drinking all day long. :uttercontempt:


Amstel and 1664? Refined and sophisticated? Hmmm?

I forgot to mention I had my first drink on arrival in the “Frog and Rosbiff”. A nice little drop called ‘Inseine’ (get it?). What you lads forgot to tell me is that to walk to the F+R from the Gare du Nord takes you right through Prostitute alley – or did we take a wrong turn?!!

I think we did most bars around the mile radius of Moulin Rouge and Sacre Couer (Strange how close those two things are?) but we watched the early games on Saturday in O’Sullivans next to the Moulin Rouge – then went to the game where it all went downhill. The Parisiens almost know what Irish bars should be like - but the real ones have more toilets.

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The big question is was Finbar’s birthday Tuesday or Wednesday?


Not only are you posting from work but you are also so iddle at work that you have the time to study the profile of your fellow posters. Isn't your company looking for a native French speaker?

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A tiny bit.




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But when a team loses the best lock in the world and replaces him with a young Bath chump – and the coach breaks up the best back row forward combination in the world deliberately right before we are due to face the second best combination in Paris, and then our entire front rwo seems suddenly more interested in pies than playing - I would say “disarray” fits the bill quite nicely.




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How is the medication going by the way?


Fine thank you, I think I will have a permission this week-end. Why?

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Amstel and 1664? Refined and sophisticated? Hmmm?


These are the beverages the bartenders keep in stock for the poor strangers visiting our beautiful country.

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A nice little drop called ‘Inseine’ (get it?).


Yes, I am!

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What you lads forgot to tell me is that to walk to the F+R from the Gare du Nord takes you right through Prostitute alley – or did we take a wrong turn?!!


I can't tell you, I only know Toulouse's Frog and Rosbiff.

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I think we did most bars around the mile radius of Moulin Rouge and Sacre Coeur (Strange how close those two things are?)...




Now I can understand the importance placed in toilets...

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I'm not gonna get to see Blue v Waratahs!!

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I'm not gonna get to see Blue v Waratahs!!


This is all you deserve when you live in a backwater country.

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It is a backwater as far as rugby is concerned. No 6 nations either!

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It is a backwater as far as rugby is concerned. No 6 nations either!


If the articles I have read are accurate, the USA should improve quickly... as far as Rugby is concerned of course.

I have read that the national Rugby competition is gathering an increasing audience and that it has already attracted some big sponsors.

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The big question is was Finbar’s birthday Tuesday or Wednesday?


All day Tuesday!



The dogs, typically, unimaginatively, gave me clothes! Mrs finbar, typically, thoughtfully, gave me a Mont Blanc pen, one of the new ones with a fibre tip-style nib.

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But when a team loses the best lock in the world and replaces him with a young Bath chump – and the coach breaks up the best back row forward combination in the world deliberately right before we are due to face the second best combination in Paris, and then our entire front rwo seems suddenly more interested in pies than playing - I would say “disarray” fits the bill quite nicely.


Sounds to me like a round about way of acknowledging England were a one man team, and, without that man, they're rooted.

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It is a backwater as far as rugby is concerned. No 6 nations either!


Or here! But New Zealand has them live!

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I'm not gonna get to see Blue v Waratahs!!


Phil Waugh is now out of the Waratahs team with a shoulder problem. Carlos is probably back for the Blues, but Caucau is out for the season with, I think, a shoulder problem, but Rokococo is, I think, back. On balance, the Blues have the better of the injury comings and goings.

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If the articles I have read are accurate, the USA should improve quickly... as far as Rugby is concerned of course.

I have read that the national Rugby competition is gathering an increasing audience and that it has already attracted some big sponsors.


Did you read these articles online? If so can you post a link? It sounds like good news.

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Or here! But New Zealand has them live!


Would that be on their Rugby Channel?

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Phil Waugh is now out of the Waratahs team with a shoulder problem. Carlos is probably back for the Blues, but Caucau is out for the season with, I think, a shoulder problem, but Rokococo is, I think, back. On balance, the Blues have the better of the injury comings and goings.


Yes, while I like Caucau's speed and strength, I think the Blues missed Carlos more...and it's not like the Blues are short of strong, fast wingers.

Auckland and Waikato (actually Auckland and any other part of the country ) have a pretty healthy rivalry, so this will give the Blues another reason to beat the Waratahs. Losing to a team the Chiefs beat the week before is out of the question!

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Did you read these articles online? If so can you post a link? It sounds like good news.


Unfortunately it was in the famous Midi Olympique a few weeks ago, I don't know if I have kept the newspaper.

But it is indeed a good news for the american Rugby.

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Unfortunately it was in the famous Midi Olympique a few weeks ago, I don't know if I have kept the newspaper.

But it is indeed a good news for the american Rugby.


Rugby has been growing at the grass-roots level here for quite a while. Major sponsorship is a good next step.

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Unfortunately it was in the famous Midi Olympique a few weeks ago, I don't know if I have kept the newspaper.


Know anyone with a bird in a cage? They'll have a copy. Lining the bottom of the cage, with the content vastly improved via the bird's contributions.

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Ouch – with a casual tap of the fingers Finbar condemns French journalism as Budgie bathroom fodder.

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but you are also so idle at work that you have the time to study the profile of your fellow posters. Isn't your company looking for a native French speaker?


We already have several but if any more positions open up I’ll let you know.

I didn’t check his profile – there was another thread coughing up the fact it was his birthday. So a belated happy birthday for Tuesday Finbar.

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Fine thank you, I think I will have a permission this week-end. Why?


The unbounded optimimisim about Les Bleus gave away the use of pharmacology that’s all.

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These are the beverages the bartenders keep in stock for the poor strangers visiting our beautiful country.


I had the odd bottle of wine as well. Some very odd.

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I can't tell you, I only know Toulouse's Frog and Rosbiff.


That’s the only other genuine Frog and Rosbiff I think – the rest of the chain is ‘Frog and British Library’ and other such witty names.

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Now I can understand the importance placed in toilets...




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Mrs finbar, typically, thoughtfully, gave me a Mont Blanc pen, one of the new ones with a fibre tip-style nib


Tool of the trade type gifts – nice. Can’t say the dog’s gifts were surprising – looking at their own dress sense that is.

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Sounds to me like a round about way of acknowledging England were a one man team, and, without that man, they're rooted.


I can see how it might read that way if you squint in poor light.

There’s not too much wrong – all that is needed really is to ditch all the Gloucester players and a few selected Wasps and Bath players and we will be right up there again – excepting the search to replace the skipper as that is harder.

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Basic maths:

Seven Tigers in RWC squad = world beating team.
Four Tigers in total during 6N, only two clocking serious game time = total **** up.

Lets hope Clive can do maths!

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Know anyone with a bird in a cage? They'll have a copy. Lining the bottom of the cage, with the content vastly improved via the bird's contributions.


An australian criticizing the French press... well it is as if "l'hôpital se moquait de la charité" (hospital were moking charity).

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I had the odd bottle of wine as well. Some very odd.


I agree with you, some can be very... odd, especially in a bar. I imagine a bartender sees the English supporters coming in his bar from a very long distance and prepares the bottles of wine accordingly.

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Ouch – with a casual tap of the fingers Finbar condemns French journalism as Budgie bathroom fodder.


No, no. Only this Midi Olympique rag that Tamerlin seems to devour from cover to cover, quoting it as reporting that Australia was trying to outlaw contested scrums, yet still unable actually to cite the relevant text.

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I didn’t check his profile – there was another thread coughing up the fact it was his birthday. So a belated happy birthday for Tuesday Finbar.


Another year younger, another year sillier!




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Can’t say the dog’s gifts were surprising – looking at their own dress sense that is.


Pathetic individuals they are. Caught them looking up the Midi Olympique online. "If it's good enough for Tamerlin, it's good enough for us", they said. I rest my case.

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Basic maths:

Seven Tigers in RWC squad = world beating team.
Four Tigers in total during 6N, only two clocking serious game time = total **** up.

Lets hope Clive can do maths!


Let me adjust your equation to accord with the facts:

Six so-so Tigers + one Giant Of The Game Who Carried The Other Fourteen Players = world beating team.

Team consisting of as many Tigers as you care to choose, or, in fact, of anyone you care to choose, minus Giant Of The Game Who Carried The Other Fourteen Players = total **** up.

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An australian criticizing the French press... well it is as if "l'hôpital se moquait de la charité" (hospital were moking charity).


I will merely point out, yet again, that only Americans spell criticise with a z.

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I imagine a bartender sees the English supporters coming in his bar from a very long distance and prepares the bottles of wine accordingly.


Yep. Pierre le bartender sees Havak enter. Pierre grabs an empty bottle, pops out to the WC Turc, a zip is heard to unfasten, and sixty seconds later Havak is making a mental note to post here about the oddness of French wine.

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I imagine a bartender sees the English supporters coming in his bar from a very long distance and prepares the bottles of wine accordingly.


We are actually very knowledgeable about wine. We know that there is both red and white for example.

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quoting it as reporting that Australia was trying to outlaw contested scrums, yet still unable actually to cite the relevant text.


A man after my own heart! It is very unfair of you to make us substantiate the wild unattributed quotes we make.

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Another year younger, another year sillier!


Amen to that!

I feel Tamerlin may enjoy being compared to OESDs (albeit of noble character if limited IQ). I feel an cascade coming on?

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Team consisting of as many Tigers as you care to choose, or, in fact, of anyone you care to choose, minus Giant Of The Game Who Carried The Other Fourteen Players = total **** up.




Further irony – that giant states in his autobiography that all the talk about the difference he made to England was ludicrous as “one man cannot make that much difference to a side”. M’Lud the jury politely disagrees.

My serious view is that the team had other world class players – Neil Back certainly, Hill when played at Six, Wilko (lest we forget) and Ben Cohen too I would say. Even Lewis Moody (watch the build up to that drop goal again and see who scares Rogers on his clearance and then takes the line out ball) although he just cannot stay fit these days.

Interestingly for Tigers trip to Newcastle on Sunday Benny Kay has been put on the bench – Louis Deacon is playing so well he is keeping Kay from starting. Deacon is a name for Englands future – wonder if he will be a ‘once in a generation player’?

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Pierre grabs an empty bottle, pops out to the WC Turc, a zip is heard to unfasten, and sixty seconds later Havak is making a mental note to post here about the oddness of French wine.


Hmm I thought the colour of that house red was a little off!

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Happy Birthday from me too Finbar. You got a thread? I didn't see it.

I never get a thread...

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A man after my own heart! It is very unfair of you to make us substantiate the wild unattributed quotes we make.


Very unfair indeed!

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I feel Tamerlin may enjoy being compared to OESDs...


Who or what? :wary:

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... (albeit of noble character if limited IQ).


I suppose you are talking about the said OESDs.

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Happy Birthday from me too Finbar. You got a thread? I didn't see it.


Yeah, yeah, happy birthday and so on...



Don't expect me to send you a present, I have a very good memory...

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We are actually very knowledgeable about wine. We know that there is both red and white for example.


Or, if you're in a hurry to get to the match, you pour one into the other and call it Havak's Rosé.

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I feel Tamerlin may enjoy being compared to OESDs (albeit of noble character if limited IQ).


Yes, sometimes I look at Dermott and have to believe it's Tamerlin - loveable, buffoon-ish nature; prone to farting through the night; squats because he can't hold his balance when he cocks his leg; pores (or, indeed, paws) over the Midi Olympique; cultivating his own dope plants amongst my tomatoes ...

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Further irony – that giant states in his autobiography that all the talk about the difference he made to England was ludicrous as “one man cannot make that much difference to a side”. M’Lud the jury politely disagrees.


Yeah well, add modesty to his list of achievements. It's crap, of course.

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My serious view is that the team had other world class players – Neil Back certainly, Hill when played at Six, Wilko (lest we forget) and Ben Cohen too I would say. Even Lewis Moody (watch the build up to that drop goal again and see who scares Rogers on his clearance and then takes the line out ball) although he just cannot stay fit these days.


Back, a year or so ago, yes; Wilkinson, obviously. I'm not convinced about Cohen. Obviously talented, but he doesn't produce the goods often enough. Regardless, it's a short-ish list, only underlining J****'s import.

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Hmm I thought the colour of that house red was a little off!


Red? Cripes, Pierre must've been on a beetroot diet.

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Happy Birthday from me too Finbar. You got a thread? I didn't see it.

I never get a thread...


I got two! One here in the OT forum, one in the Civ 2 MP forum.



Actually, I think I'd probably have too much time on my hands if I started trawling through the site's birthday list.

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Yeah, yeah, happy birthday and so on...


Pretty much what Mrs finbar said to me on Tuesday morning.



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Don't expect me to send you a present, I have a very good memory...


I'm going to send you one! A book I'm about to write for you: American Spelling The Lazy Way (And How To Avoid It)!

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Pretty much what Mrs finbar said to me on Tuesday morning.


This woman is too good for you...

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I'm going to send you one! A book I'm about to write for you: American Spelling The Lazy Way (And How To Avoid It)!



The problem is that I am reading too many american books.

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Yes, sometimes I look at Dermott and have to believe it's Tamerlin - loveable, buffoon-ish nature; prone to farting through the night; squats because he can't hold his balance when he cocks his leg; pores (or, indeed, paws) over the Midi Olympique; cultivating his own dope plants amongst my tomatoes ...


I wish I had a garden.

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Or, if you're in a hurry to get to the match, you pour one into the other and call it Havak's Rosé.


This is pretty much the way the Vin Rosé is produced... and that explains why I am almost never drinking some Rosé, a good red wine is far better IMO.

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Red? Cripes, Pierre must've been on a beetroot diet.


How do you know my kid likes beetroot?


That makes me wonder if he is really my son by the way.

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This woman is too good for you...


Funnily enough, that's what she tells me every day.

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The problem is that I am reading too many american books.


Two suggestions: (1) Stop it! Or, failing that: (2) take your crayon de couleur and change every z - when substituted for s - to an s when you come across one. Guaranteed to cure your appalling habit. BTW, this method is especially recommended for books borrowed from libraries!

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I wish I had a garden.


I haven't got enough so you're not getting any of mine!

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How do you know my kid likes beetroot?


Fresh beetroot, hopefully, and not that tinned muck!

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That makes me wonder if he is really my son by the way.


How many times have I told you! Get a DNA test done!

On a related note, Kiwi ref Paddy O'Brien has apparently written a book. He reports this exchange between French ref Didier Mene and an unnamed Springbok:

Mene chastises the player.

PLAYER: "F*ck you!"

MENE: "What did you say?"

PLAYER: "I said, 'F*ck you!'"

MENE: "Huh! I'll decide who f*cks me. You're off!"

 
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