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yavoon
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we need a racist jokes thread.
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molly bloom
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Lundenwic
Oct 2001
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Originally posted by Rogan Josh
That's the most racist phrase posted in this thread so far... |
I think chegitz is actually spot on- there was a soft drink on sale in Great Britain a few years ago, called:
'Um Bongo'.
It was a mixture of fruit juices, sugar and water, guaranteed to send a diabetic into an instant coma. The advertising jingle ran something like:
'Way down deep in the middle of the Congo,
A hippo took an apricot, a guava and a mango.
He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango.
The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo",
Um Bongo, They drink it in the Congo.
The python picked the passion fruit, the marmoset the mandarin.
The parrot painted packets, that the whole caboodle landed in.
So when it comes to sun and fun and goodness in the jungle,
They all prefer the sunny funny one they call "Um Bongo". *
with cartoon animals in a jungle, and much business about passion fruit and elephants and something else.
This may be a shortcut to the video and mp3 of the advertisement:
http://www.umbongo.com/bongo_downloads.html
They chose to run this advertisement during the ad breaks in a showing of 'Live and Let Die', which I thought was hilariously ironic. Quite a few of my friends thought it rather stupid, but none of them were overly offended by it, but a couple said they hadn't actually been to the jungle, having been brought up in Lagos, and Abidjan.
* Japanese babelfish translation:
Deeply method with the Congolese center, the hippo apricot, took the guava and the ???. He attached that of other things, the cute tango danced. You called the Rhino, " I, us that it calls the um Bongo " and, the um Bongo and the um Bongo, those have known the Congolese that is drunk. The passionate fruit namely the marmoset the mandarin it chose the Python. The ??? that all caboodle which lands painted the package. So, when that bleaching in the pleasure and merit day of the jungle coming, brightly strange one where those call all um Bongo is liked,!
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The Mad Viking
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of the Great White North
Feb 2000
time: 05:34
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molly bloom
Here is an article written by a person of colour, from The East African, but without all the PC crap. It also deals very nicely with the slavery restitution issue, IMO.
Cannibalism was part of many neolithic and mesolithic cultures.
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And whom did my ancestors eat?
By WYCLIFFE MUGA
It started off as one or two voices, crying out in the wilderness; but it has been steadily building up and will soon reach a crescendo: Africans are demanding "reparations" (i.e. compensation) for the slave trade of the 18th and early 19th centuries. A Pan-African Reparations Forum (Panref) has been constituted, and an "eminent persons" committee formed to look into ways and means of cashing in on the anticipated windfall.
The argument goes that if Germany has paid money to the descendants of Jews, Poles, and other nationalities who provided slave labour for the Nazi war machine, then this question of reparations must be taken even further back. Present day Africansmust also be compensated for the fact that their ancestors were abducted, and taken away to toil on the slave plantations of the "New World" (as the America's in general were termed at the time).
Dissenting voice
Already one dissenting voice has been raised against this clamour for compensation: President Abdoulaye Wode of Senegal has declared the whole idea to be absolute nonsense. He pointed out that his own ancestors kept slave armies to do their fighting for them, and that he had no intention of paying any form of compensation to anyone who might claim descent from the ranks of these slave armies.
But there is an even stronger argument against reparations as applied to the slave trade of over 200 years ago. And this is that many African communities also profited from this particular brand of private enterprise. Most foreign slave traders, whether Arab or European, did not go very far inland in search of slaves. They depended rather on Slave Raiders – war-like tribes who attacked their more peaceful neighbours, captured the survivors and sold them to the traders. So reparations, properly conducted, would have to begin with the Slave Raiders, and only then move on to the Slave Traders.
But it was not only in order to obtain slaves for trading purposes, that Africa's war-like tribes of the 18th and 19th centuries attacked their neighbours. Cannibalism was not unknown on the continent during that period, and a raid on a peaceful village could have been as easily for the capture of slaves, as for acquiring a ready supply of fresh meat for the attackers. (This would seem to indicate that the now popular "take-away" meal was invented in Africa, hundreds of years ago, and not in 20th century America).
Pre-colonial cannibalism on the African continent is not a subject that historians have adequately addressed. Information on the subject is purely anecdotal, arising from the memoirs of early European missionaries, explorers, and administrators. Ask any African whether the tribe he belongs to practised cannibalism to any extent at all, a hundred or so years ago, and he will definitely say, No. If pressed, an elderly African will probably say that in his early youth, there were strong rumours that a neighbouring tribe had such a practice; but certainly not his own tribe.
Embarrassing chapters
Mind you, this aptitude for glossing over the embarrassing chapters of one's history is not a uniquely African trait. The undisputed champions in this field are, surprisingly, the well-mannered, soft-spoken, hard-working Japanese. The Japanese will freely discuss their glorious history of a few hundred years ago: of Samurai and Shoguns and so on. But mention the barbaric quality of the Japanese colonisation of Korea and Manchuria; mention "the rape of Nanking" or the "comfort women" who were an integral feature of the Japanese Imperial Army, and the eyes of your Japanese friend will suddenly glaze over.
Only a few months ago Kenya witnessed the unusual spectacle of a street demonstration by Korean citizens resident in Nairobi. And what were they protesting against? The soaring crime rate in the capital city? No, they were part of a worldwide series of protest marches by Koreansupset about the fact that in a newly-released Japanese school history textbook, the atrocities committed by the Japanese Imperial Army in the period roughly corresponding to the Second World War, had been glossed over in the most shameful manner.
Textbook's impression
Reading that textbook, the impression that would be formed is that the Japanese Colonisation of the Korean Peninsula was a humanitarian intervention. And yet there are Koreans still living whose memories are haunted by Japanese torture methods; by Japanese massacres of civilians; and by other atrocities committed over that same period, by the Japanese colonists.
"Try to be more like the Japanese", is generally sound advice to give to any African country or community. It means, usually, "Be more industrious, be thrifty; be patriotic; practise self-denial; work for the greater good of your country." But this cannot apply when what is under discussion is an honest and frank assessment of a people's past. The Japanese people have yet to confront what they did to their victims in Korea, and elsewhere in their Greater Asia Co-prosperity Sphere.
If the "eminent persons" of the Pan-African Reparations Forum are serious about seeking reparations for the effects of slave trade on the continent, then they must consider these two questions: Number one, ''Whom did my ancestors capture and sell to the Coastal Slave Traders, and what reparations should I make to the living descendants of the communities that my ancestors raided for these slaves? Number two, "Whom did my ancestors eat, and what do I owe the descendants of these people whose bodies provided nourishment for my ancestors"?
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Elok
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Land of Ramen Dragons
Mar 2003
time: 00:34
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Dunno about Papua New Guinea, but in Irian Jaya on the other half of the island, they had a longstanding tradition of cannibalistic revenge-raids against neighboring tribes, which would get the raiders revenge-raided in turn, and so on. Nobody even remembered how it started. Probably tribe A said tribe B's chief's wife was fat nine hundred years ago or something, and it grew from there.
Doesn't matter now, since the Indonesian government decided they were an embarrassment, stepped in, and forced them to change to symbolic "ceremonial" raids or eat napalm. Which is why, whenever I hear somebody talk about an entire way of life being crushed out of existence by the government, my first thought is usually, "you say that like it's necessarily a bad thing." 
Oh, and my Mom says his test should have joked, "I thought of Dinty Moore Beef Stew" instead. After all, it's a Can o' Bull. Yeah, my mom has a corny sense of humor.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:34
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Humor doesn't make things okay. It's not okay, you went to Subway. Racist, sexist, homophobic humor may be funny, but it doesn't stop it from being racist, sexist, or homophobic. Humor is divorced from social realities. No more than paintings are, no more than movies are, no more than any other type of speech there is. It's is protected, and it should be, but it's not immune to criticiism.
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The Mad Viking
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of the Great White North
Feb 2000
time: 05:34
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, most studies of cannibalism say that very few cultures practiced it, and those that did only in ceramonial situations. I have never seen cannibalism ascribed to African cultures in any academic study. In Papua New Guinea, they eat their their own dead. Then you have cases like the Donners or the Beans or Liver Eatin' Johnson. Cannibalism, is the very rare exception, not the rule. |
PC rubbish. If a researcher starts with the precept that cannibalism was extremely rare, you can make it seem difficult to find proof, and easily discount every missionaries' report as anecdotal and biased.
In addition, even if a small percentage of cultures practiced cannabilism (very few), that would still mean that many cultures did so. Because there are several hundred tribes you are dealing with.
Finally, I was speaking historically as well. There is archeaological evidence of cannabilism in many cultures no longer with us - even advanced cultures in meso-america, south america and the Minoans.
Did anyone practice "daily" cannibalism? Of course not. It was always ritual, or based on the relatively rare event of tribal conflict.
All I said was that cannibalism was practiced in Africa, New Guinea, and the Amazon basin.
It was.
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molly bloom
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Lundenwic
Oct 2001
time: 15:34
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mad Viking
Finally, I was speaking historically as well. There is archeaological evidence of cannabilism in many cultures no longer with us - even advanced cultures in meso-america, south america and the Minoans.
Did anyone practice "daily" cannibalism? Of course not. It was always ritual, or based on the relatively rare event of tribal conflict.
All I said was that cannibalism was practiced in Africa, New Guinea, and the Amazon basin.
It was. |
And yet you provided no evidence of such, except for a vague article which had no names and dates for these cannibalistic practices.
I'm not saying there may not have been cannibalism in Africa during the Stone Age- what I'm asking for is proof of such an assertion. The kind of proof that say, transmission of kuru in New Guinea provides, or human bones that have been flensed and cooked prior to consumption, or digested human matter found in faeces-all of which have been used to show routine cannibalistic practices in places such as Fiji, or Chaco Canyon, or the Aztec Empire.
A bland assertion that 'it existed' is rather like those old maps that say 'here be monsters' or Othello's speech about all the wondrous places and beings he has seen.
Names and places and dates when you start to attribute cannibalism please.
Nobody says for instance that Western Europeans routinely practice eating each other because of the consumption of human flesh during the siege of Stalingrad, nor that the Japanese routinely eat their own because of what Japanese soldiers did to Allied servicemen, Pacific Islanders and each other in the Pacific theater of war.
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17-02-2004 23:13
it's HUMOR
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