29-02-2004 03:01									#1
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Not if you value your life. Let's see, in the last two weeks I've heard a story of a young college student getting beaten to death and of a family getting murdered in their home by thieves.

Easy enough to dismiss until you go to a bar only to have someone try to kill your friend. I just got back from the joke of a police station here, where nothing would have been said to us, if we didn't go there on our own.

One of the first things a Chinese person told me before I ever went to China was to stay with a large group of friends, if I travelled outside of the city. Otherwise, someone would rob me and kill me. This event took place inside the province capital. I'm sure the bartender would have done something to stop it, if he wasn't so busy kicking my friend in the face.

The biggest problem is the complete lack of action by the police. They questions the Chinese people together in one room, while they separated the foreigners. The Chinese suspects were allowed to leave before all the statements were taken. Of course, bystanders were allowed to come in and watch.

Now my friend has to worry about retaliation because the guy who attacked him may have Chinese mob connections. And my friend was just about to have his wife arrive here. It's unlikey that my friend will stay the month.

**** this crap!

	29-02-2004 03:03									#2
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Ah damn! I really wanted to go there too! Shucks.

	29-02-2004 03:04									#3
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Stay safe, DaShi.

	29-02-2004 03:05									#4
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It's all obviously PROPOGANDA!

	29-02-2004 03:06									#5
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What did your friend do?
Get him hooked up with the Yakuza.. much more class an operation than anything Chinese (unless out of HK)

	29-02-2004 03:11									#6
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This is what he did. He liked a song so he went up to a girl he thought worked there and asked her to turn up the music. She said that she didn't work there and to talk to the bartender. Just as he turned to speak with the bartender, a beer bottle hit the girl and she screamed. Then her boyfriend, who threw the bottle, jumped my friend and started pounding on him. When my friend realized that he was going to stop, he began to fight back to defend himself. At this time, the Chinese who worked in the bar started attacking my friend while another friend and I tried to hold everyone we could back. Finally, we got our friend back to his seat. The attacker ran in the kitchen and came out with a cleaver. My other friend told my friend to run, which he did.

	29-02-2004 03:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Stay safe, DaShi.

I felt safer in America, to tell the truth.

	29-02-2004 03:16									#8
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No offense DaShi, but can you really expect a developing nation to be ultra-stable?

	29-02-2004 03:18									#9
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I don't expect this **** from any nation that claims to be developing. I can understand a bar fight, but the actions of the bar staff and the police were unacceptable.

	29-02-2004 03:18									#10
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The world's oldest civilization is a developing nation?

	29-02-2004 03:23									#11
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Right on, so he nailed his gf with the bottle. Impressive little man

In any case.. come on guys. UR and TKG will be here soon enough to let you know how much more dangerous and law enforcement irresponsible the US is

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	29-02-2004 03:25									#12
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk The world's oldest civilization is a developing nation?

I'm sure this was a joke, so I'm not going to call you on it.

quote: I can understand a bar fight, but the actions of the bar staff and the police were unacceptable.

Is China the only developing nation you've been to?

	29-02-2004 03:28									#13
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So you think this is ok from "nation of laws"?

	29-02-2004 03:31									#14
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I'm not saying it's OK, but I'm not saying it's entirely suprirsing either.
I think this is just another one of your anti-Chinese trolls.

	29-02-2004 03:33									#15
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Then **** off. Please.

	29-02-2004 03:35									#16
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yeah totally man
I mean this is like out of the blue trolling. nothing to do with going to a foreign country and having your friends face get kicked in by locals and then f*d over by the Police

	29-02-2004 03:36									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Then **** off. Please.

So you only want sympathy posts here? Fine:
I sympathise with you. It should not have happend.
However your smart enough to know that China is developing and as such theres going to be much crime and corruption.

	29-02-2004 03:38									#18
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I can still be pissed about it.

	29-02-2004 03:39									#19
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Did I say you couldn't?

	29-02-2004 03:42									#20
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Then what are you on about? If it's my 'trolling' in other threads, then take it somewhere else. Start a thread on it if you want. Show some tact in these kinds of situations. My friend was nearly killed.

	29-02-2004 03:43									#21
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Tass, no joke.

I'm genuinely surprised, given that China has been civilized for roughly 5,000 years.

Chinese don't exactly have a reputation as gang-bangers.

	29-02-2004 03:45									#22
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DaShi, are you staying on? Is there a way out of your contract?

	29-02-2004 03:50									#23
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I could probably leave my contract because of this, but I'm not. I'm a bit pissed right now, but China is still an interesting and fun place to live. I'll see it out through the semester then decided where I go from there. Might change towns. Also, there is a girl here that I'm reluctant to leave behind again.

	29-02-2004 03:54									#24
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My friend will probably leave. He's only been here a month and he was expecting his wife to arrive in April. He just doesn't feel safe here. Also, his best friend, who invited him to come, is a little embarrassed about the whole thing. One of our best teachers, who was at the bar with us, is really upset because he had planned to make China an important part of his life. He was planning to leave Hangzhou anyway after this semester. Hopefully, he'll get the job he wants in Hong Kong, which will allow him to keep ties with China.

	29-02-2004 11:56									#25
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Chinese don't exactly have a reputation as gang-bangers.

Really? Whenever I think of living in China I think of:

-Millions of characters
-Bright lights
-Prostitutes
-The Asian Mafia

I thought all developing nations were seen (sometimes rightfully) as a crime haven?

	29-02-2004 12:33									#26
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We all already knew how weak the rule of law is in China. That cancer is now even effecting Hong Kong.

	29-02-2004 14:19									#27
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Yep. Now organized crime will arrive to HK, as well!

	29-02-2004 14:25									#28
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Chinese don't exactly have a reputation as gang-bangers.

They do here. A major crime problem is gangs, and 99% of them are Chinese/Asian gangs.

	29-02-2004 17:09									#29
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What kind of bars do you frequent?

	29-02-2004 17:10									#30
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Plus maybe there are local customs there. I remember once addressing directly a Japanese woman while her husband was next to her. I'm sure out of courtesy he didn't tell me anything but his wife blushed to the high heavens and started bowing to me uncontrollably.
You can't know all the customs.