15-03-2004 23:15									#1
	Would you change your voting intention following a terrorist attack? Got spare money?

If, as in Spain, a terrorist attack happened only a short time before a national election, would it affect your voting behaviour?

If so, why?

	15-03-2004 23:16									#2
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Nope.

	15-03-2004 23:26									#3
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Nah.

	15-03-2004 23:26									#4
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Not a chance.

	15-03-2004 23:32									#5
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it depends on the circumstances of the attack and the positions of each side.

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In and of itself, no.

A politician's reactions to it may effect my decision if those reactions seemed extreme or totally incompetent.

	15-03-2004 23:50									#7
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Regardless of whether you say you will change your views or not, the results in Spain guarantee that al Qaeda will attack or attempt to attack across the world to influence elections in its favor.

	15-03-2004 23:51									#8
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nope. i'm voting against bush on purely budgetary grounds.

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in fact, the only way my vote would change is if the terrorist attack killed me.

	15-03-2004 23:53									#10
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although i'm not sure if i really could vote for kerry. so i might just decide to stay home.

so in that case, the terrorists killing me would have a net change in my voting pattern of zero.

	15-03-2004 23:54									#11
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Anyone who wouldn't be influenced by it is one of those people who just subscribes to a party and votes for it no matter what. So it's kind of a moot question.

	15-03-2004 23:55									#12
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No.

quote: Originally posted by Ned Regardless of whether you say you will change your views or not, the results in Spain guarantee that al Qaeda will attack or attempt to attack across the world to influence elections in its favor.

We have yet to establish that Spain voted socialist to avoid future attacks. And don't give me that polls crap - like a poll has never been wrong. Max Clelend was up 10 points in Georgia the weekend before Saxby beat him. Does that prove Diebold rigged their e-voting machines?


BTW, how was the economy doing in Spain? That might explain a transition to socialism ...

	15-03-2004 23:55									#13
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If I happen to succumb in the act, no.

It really depends on the political agenda of the attackers. If I share their beliefs, and calculate the popularity swing caused by the act (casualties+media=support), I just might vote for them.

Ahem, no. Not many here would chance their vote based on such thing... We too smart.

	15-03-2004 23:56									#14
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are you sure about that? i mean, i can't stand kerry or most democrats, but a bombing that didn't kill me still wouldn't change my opinion that bush has got to go.

if there were a different, more fiscally responsible republican that i could trust, i'd vote for him in a heartbeat over kerry. and if there were to be a perfect, independent candidate, i'd vote for him/her/it over anybody in the field.

bombing or no bombing, i'm not voting along party lines, but against bush. so are you sure it's a moot question?

	15-03-2004 23:57									#15
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Anyone who wouldn't be influenced by it is one of those people who just subscribes to a party and votes for it no matter what. So it's kind of a moot question.

Or those people might have concerns other than terrorism. The economy, judicial appointments, that the current leaders are crooks, etc.

	15-03-2004 23:58									#16
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no, you idiot. templar, isn't it obvious that if you are not swayed by terrorism, you're a party hack?

	15-03-2004 23:59									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed are you sure about that? i mean, i can't stand kerry or most democrats, but a bombing that didn't kill me still wouldn't change my opinion that bush has got to go. if there were a different, more fiscally responsible republican that i could trust, i'd vote for him in a heartbeat over kerry. and if there were to be a perfect, independent candidate, i'd vote for him/her/it over anybody in the field. bombing or no bombing, i'm not voting along party lines, but against bush. so are you sure it's a moot question?

My point was that if someone can firmly say that something as huge and consequential as a terrorist attack would never be able to influence their vote, than there is nothing that can.

	16-03-2004 00:02									#18
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quote: Originally posted by The Templar BTW, how was the economy doing in Spain? That might explain a transition to socialism ...

I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the state of the economy in Spain, but it's my understanding that the Socialists were booted out in 1996 (after being in power since 1982 or so) due to extensive corruption in their ranks. Perhaps eight years in the wilderness have shaken that out of their system, at least for the time being.

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	16-03-2004 00:03									#19
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why should it influence your vote? simply because it's a terrorist attack?

believe it or not, there are some voters out there who vote along more than one axis.

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed why should it influence your vote? simply because it's a terrorist attack?

Because it's part of the political lanscape.

	16-03-2004 00:05									#21
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yes, but if it didn't change how you were going to vote, it's as good as not really influencing your vote, is it?

	16-03-2004 00:06									#22
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quote: Originally posted by The Templar We have yet to establish that Spain voted socialist to avoid future attacks.

Templar, in fairness, al Qaeda is going to take credit for the socialst victory regardless.

	16-03-2004 00:09									#23
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd My point was that if someone can firmly say that something as huge and consequential as a terrorist attack would never be able to influence their vote, than there is nothing that can.

The terrorist attack alone is meaningless. Say ELF burns down the parking garage down the street. That's not going to effect my vote for mayor. If Bloomberg came out and said "Bully for ELF" THAT might effect my vote.

Much as 9-11 didn't make me like or dislike Bush more. But his wingnut reaction definitely turned me off.

There are more issues than terriorism in the world.

	16-03-2004 00:10									#24
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A terrorist attack would have to kill me to change my vote. Other than that: NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. I only wish more Spanish people thought the same.

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quote: Originally posted by Ned Templar, in fairness, al Qaeda is going to take credit for the socialst victory regardless.

And we should care why? We're going to kill AQ. We are going to hunt every one of those bastards down and send him to hell . . . once the Bush Administration gets out of the way.

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quote: Originally posted by Ned Templar, in fairness, al Qaeda is going to take credit for the socialst victory regardless.

Your point? So if Al Qaida will take credit for a Bush victory in November, does that mean you won't vote for Bush?

The terrorists win when you vote based on their perceptions.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara And we should care why? We're going to kill AQ. We are going to hunt every one of those bastards down and send him to hell . . . once the Bush Administration gets out of the way.

It is the Bush adminstration doing that.

You think John "I vote against the military and intelligence sectors every single time" Kerry would be able to do something about it? Well it'll hit you hard about the reality of that man...

	16-03-2004 00:16									#28
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I think the people figured that a socialist vote would make them safer from a future attack.

As with the Bush Administration, the abject failure to prevent a massive attack cost them the election, and will cost Bush the same..

	16-03-2004 00:18									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You think John "I vote against the military and intelligence sectors every single time" Kerry would be able to do something about it?

Blatant troll, fez-bot.

	16-03-2004 00:20									#30
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of course, the way the bush camp will spin it is that kerry the anti-military anti-intelligence vietnam veteran will just allow conditions that help terrorist attacks arise in the us.