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yavoon
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quote:
Originally posted by Big Crunch
You are inherently assuming that because the result went the way they wanted it to that they're are ultimately responsible for it. |
its more a conclusion than an assumption.
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yaroslav
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Madrid, Spain, Europe
Jun 2001
time: 06:34
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Originally posted by germanos
What I find truely strange, and in fact truely disturbing, is the Spain-bashing that has been going on over the last few days on this forum.
As far as I know, there has been no calls in the spanish elections to withdraw the spanish troops from Iraq BECAUSE of the terrorist attacks.
Yet, this assumption keeps being fed into the discussion, one way or another.
The principle arguement for this assumption is that al-qaeda will hold this view, while there are no facts that support the idea that the spanish electorate have changed their views to the precence of their soldiers in Iraq because of the attacks.
The allies of Spain in that war, the UK and the US, voiced here by several posters, appear to be more interested in the presumed views of their enemy, al-qaeda, instead of listening to their friends and allies, who have in no way said they will stop their struggle against terrorists in general, or al-qaeda specificly.
It appears that the misconception that the war against Iraq (or against Saddam Hussein for that matter) was a battle in the war against al-qaeda specifically or terrorism in general, has sunken so deep into the minds of some posters here, that even now, a full year later (when its clear the war aginst Iraq was fought for many reasons, but NOT that it has been a succesfull contribution against terrorism), the spanish wish to detach them from this war, IS being seen as an act of cowardice.
To me, it is clear that the election results in Spain are NOT a victory for those who planted the bombs.
Reading the posts here the last days DO however make me wonder if the true benefit the terrorists get from their action, is the fact that the US and UK isolate THEMSELVES further, resolve in their stubborness, and value the supposed intentions of their enemies above the outspoken values of their friends and allies.
I find it quite disheartening to see that the spanish posters hardly speak out in these threads anymore.
The voice of the spanish electorate, who have spoken out against the war in Iraq, and consistantly so I must add, is being misunderstood as a vote against battling terrorism.
The spanish, victim of a terrile crime, still down on the ground and recuperating (sp?), unfortunately 'accustomed' to terror, are being stabbed in the back by those to whom they have pledged alligance (sp?)
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Thanks. I can't help but saying that I want to cry after reading who're labeled as cowards, after
1) we've been sufering terrorism since 1968 (i.e: that's not the first terrorist attack in Spain)
2) we're attacked by Al-Quaeda in Morroco last year
3) we're attacked by Al-Quaeda a few days ago.
4) we've been very good allies of America, givin away lives of our soldiers and intelligence members -> And now some americans call us cowards  
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17-03-2004 01:26
that is how it started. 
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