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Well there were extensive riots throughout Kosovo.
18 people were killed, 200 wounded, Serbian houses were put to flames, invaluable Orthodox churches and monasteries from the middle ages were burned by the Albanians.
Apart from the Greek Lt. another 12 French and also Danish peacekeepers were wounded 3 of whom seriously.
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VetLegion
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Bad news. I hope EU peacekeeping force manages to keep it under control. Especially since I doubt this was the last outbreak of violence.
About the whole Kosovo issue. I can't fathom a flowery solution. Much of the region of inner Balkans is extreme in its tribal mentality, which also shows at the edges, such as say Athens and Zagreb, but is much weaker there. Mountains of Balkans have what we see in periphery as endemic nepotism and corruption - times ten.
We're talking about an entrenched eye for an eye mentality here. The priorities are: family, tribe ... even nation is much after and way after ... come democracy, rule of law, individualism, liberalism and tolerance.
The concept of compromise is unheard of. It is a sign of weakness. The winner is expected not only to take all, but also to make bloody sure the seed for the next generation of revenge is planted.
We're talking about the area that in some places had the custom of, should there be only females in the family, raising one daughter as a son. This means she got a male name she was addresed by, pissed upright, dressed as a man, carried weapons and took part in vendetta. Other women treated her as a man and so she behaved.
Ha, I bet they don't have that in Afghanistan!
I have the same understanding for these exotic cultural differences as I have for the *******s in Turkey who kill their sisters if they were raped or otherwise disgraced. Wherever you see high mountains with scarce resources you will find this type of mentality. (Varying from place to place depending on proximity to big cultural centers etc.)
But I say give me a decadent lowlands farmer over that anyday! And that says I, the first generation of my family actually born in the lowlands 
Seriousely. No understanding and no discounts for the savages. Deal with force. They kill a boy - deal with force. They burn a church - deal with force.
Ofcourse, I am not advocating Israeli type of indiscriminate action here. I am saying that a strong court based legal system is needed if we want to see the circular volence end. The only way for the region to go forward is to break the strong clan connections (source of clan justice) and replace them with more individualism. I have yet to hear of an advanced tribal society. It may function ... but it can't go forward.
You can admit the whole thing into EU now and ten years from now things will still likely be the same. The only thing that can potentially end it is a combination of these factors: higher living standars, nuclear families, fewer children, less tribal mentality and the playstation. In my humble opinion.
That won't guarantee the end of conflicts, but will make the perpetrators more like us  . Say like northern Ireland or Basque? Anyway, that's my two cents.
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Bereta_Eder
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Originally posted by Spiffor
And the situation seems to be worening. How many churches and mosques were burned today? |
At least 2 Orthodox churches have been burned in Kosovo and one Mosque in Belgrade. Also Peecekeepers managed to save an elderly Serb woman in Urosevac after teh Albanians set fire in her small appartment.
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Bereta_Eder
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Also all the houses in the Serb village of Glinale were burned and 3 Serbs beaten to death by Albanians.
But this is not necessairily today, this is so far since the riots started.
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Bereta_Eder
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LOTM I haven't clicked on the links you provided. If angloamerican media coverage of the era is any indication, there are no more than fairy tales for the easily impressionable and trigger happy fools. Nothing more than grottesque carricatures for a populace with an average IQ of 80 in order to facilitate a sloppy NATO involvement.
In Hague it was so far impossible to substantiate any claims that didn't go beyond civil war crimes. Interesting that in a civil war there are two sides and the one side seems to be missing from the Hague.
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Bereta_Eder
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Dinodoc, no I do see evil including the 3,000 women and children massacred by your bombs and for that you MUST be judged, Americans, english, and whoever else participated.
The solution was not to help escalate the conflict in order to prove a role for NATO but that's for another thread.
Bombing was obviously not the solution but the solution was not what was sought. It would have been nice if it worked, not necessairy it did.
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Bereta_Eder
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Very well. Refrain from asking me questions if you don't want replies BTW.
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