03-04-2004 11:02									#1
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So the Flames have won another, and Kiprusoff has set a new record for lowest goals-against average in an NHL season.

I hope the Flames and Canucks go at it in the first round.

	03-04-2004 11:04									#2
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The Canucks won again too, so it's looking more and more likely.

	03-04-2004 11:26									#3
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GO AVS

	03-04-2004 11:31									#4
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The last time Calgary played Colorado, Calgary won 7-1.

	03-04-2004 11:34									#5
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Now that I gots me an avatar, I guess I should slap up a Canucks logo... at least for the playoffs.

	03-04-2004 12:01									#6
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GO BRUINS!

	03-04-2004 12:48									#7
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OILERS!!!

All we need to do is take out the 'Nucks, and hope either St. Louis or Nashville goes on a mini-slump and loses 2 in a row. Not both, just either.

It can happen!

	03-04-2004 13:02									#8
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go sharks,

everyone know sharks walk 30 miles inland to san jose

	03-04-2004 13:25									#9
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go sharks, no superstars, just hard workers. did they lose against the canucks?

	03-04-2004 23:38									#10
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Yes, it was 4-1 Canucks, and Vancouver dominated from the 2nd period on.

	04-04-2004 01:10									#11
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Who'd a thunk it? Both the Avs and the Stars crash and burn down the stretch. One or the other would have been a surprise. The Canucks now have first round home ice and a shot at winning the division.

A couple weeks ago I didn't know if they were going to make the playoffs.

	04-04-2004 01:44									#12
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The east is the best this year, and the Western Conference has been poor. How else do you explain Calgary getting into the playoffs?

It's funny that only two teams, New Jersey and Toronto, have goaltenders with a decent amount of winning playoff experience.

How Colorado expects to win anything with Aebischer is beyond me.

	04-04-2004 02:04									#13
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You're all lucky the Sabres are out. Powerhouse team.

Go Buffalos!

	04-04-2004 02:14									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon The east is the best this year, and the Western Conference has been poor. How else do you explain Calgary getting into the playoffs?

Calgary has more points than Montreal.

Still, poor troll. With 94 points, Calgary would have made it in the playoffs easily in the east as well.

	04-04-2004 02:17									#15
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Would they have won 94 points in the east?

	04-04-2004 02:18									#16
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Easily, with Iggy and Kiprusoff.

	04-04-2004 02:25									#17
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I need a playoff bandwagon to jump on since my team ain't playing yet again....

Grew up around Leaf fans. I can't share that insane fantasy.

Despise Montreal with a passion.

Vancouver is on the wacky coast. Can't go there.

Since I have nothing against Calgary (and they aren't the Oilers)......

	04-04-2004 02:27									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil Since I have nothing against Calgary (and they aren't the Oilers)......

ANYWAY, why not cheer for Ottawa???

	04-04-2004 02:31									#19
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lol, sorry forgot about Ottawa.

Although I live within a couple hours of Ottawa you can't force me at gunpoint to cheer for anything out of that city. Just look at their terribly insecure 'jersey' rule for Leaf fans for a good reason to laugh at the Senators.

	04-04-2004 02:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Easily, with Iggy and Kiprusoff.

They aren't much better than the Sabres.

	04-04-2004 02:55									#21
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Let's stop talking about the joke teams and consider serious candidates for the cup.

That means Vancouver, Detroit, and perhaps Colorado and Dallas, and New Jersey, Philly, Toronto and Ottawa. The others might produce this years Ducks or Hurricanes, but they won't win.

	04-04-2004 02:58									#22
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Tampa have been good this year, but their division is a joke. Philly and Jersey are the only two decent teams in their division. The Northeast is the most difficult division in hockey. Boston, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal are all excellent teams and only Buffalo won't make it from that division.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon They aren't much better than the Sabres.

They're the best in the league, so they are better than Toronto's, for instance.

The team themselves has been on a roll, too.

	04-04-2004 03:16									#24
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Come on, get real. We are talking about the playoffs. It's a different game - the difference is almost as great as that between amateur and professional boxing.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Flames will acquit themselves well. They are a strong, disciplined defensive team and Iginla is one of the best players in the league. But would you pick them over Detroit?

Sutter has proved that you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. He's a good coach and give it a few years and he might produce a legitimate contender.

When it comes to the playoffs would you pick Kiprusoff over Belfour, or Brodeur? Or even Theodore?

And how can you compare the Flames defensive unit to that of, say, the Leafs which includes Leetch, McCabe, Kaberle, Johansson, Klee and Marchment?

Where are the players with the playoff experience of Roberts, Sundin, Mogilny, Nieuwendyk, and Francis? All these guys, with the exception of Sundin have won a Cup, some of them more than one.

The Leafs have a pretty good lineup, but look at what Detroit has - they're insanely good. They're my pick for the cup.

	04-04-2004 03:25									#25
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You place WAY too much emphasis on playoff experience. All that means is they're old.

Kiprusoff AND Iginla are notoriously cool-headed players that don't **** up under pressure. Kiprusoff especially.

Kiprusoff played in the playoffs for the Sharks last year, and did well. He did much better in the playoffs than in the regular season. He's even better this year -- way better.

The first time Iginla was in the playoffs was his first 2 NHL games, at age 18 -- the last time the Flames were in the playoffs. He scored two goals and got one assist in two games, which -- again -- was back when he was 18 and playing his first NHL games. He, again, is doing much better this year.

I think you're dangerously underestimating the cohesiveness and general talent of the Flames team, especially when under pressure like in the playoffs. They seem to thrive under pressure.

	04-04-2004 03:27									#26
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And yes, I would absolutely choose Kiprusoff over Belfour, Brodeur, and Theodore. Anyone who has a clue how calm and brutally consistent Kiprusoff is would do that, I'd imagine.

Even Turek is playing amazing this year, the last two games he played have both been shutouts.

	04-04-2004 03:35									#27
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blues are in.

25 years...

of mediocre playoff appearances

	04-04-2004 03:40									#28
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Yeah lots of new finnish goalies out there.. about 3 or 4 years ago.. none.. now Kiprusoff, Nurminen, Lehtonen (watch this kid closely, he'll be the #1 goalie in the next few years), Markkanen etc. Nice.

ANyways, the Eastern Conference looks a lot tougher IMO.

I say Islanders will be the upset of this year and advance far.

	04-04-2004 03:44									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Kiprusoff played in the playoffs for the Sharks last year, and did well.

I don't even remember the Sharks being in the playoffs last years.

	04-04-2004 03:46									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I don't even remember the Sharks being in the playoffs last years.

Sorry, he was in the Playoffs in 2000-2001 and 2001-2002, but not 2002-2003.