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Prifysgol Caerdydd
Dec 1999
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
.. the people there were happy to be rid of the Saddamite regime. |
Like those in Sadr city in Baghdad that killed at least 8 marines - they were happy too
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Fallujah has been intensely hostile from the outset. Gee, that's so surprising considering it's a bedroom community for all the Saddamite government types who worked in Baghdad. It's also surprising, since Saddam purposely set up areas of party loyalists on the approaches to Baghdad.  |
I'd say being the scene of one of the largest number of civilians killed through 'colateral damage' during GWI and that crowd of 15 civilians killed last year didn't help either - it is the site of those two attacks and, gee, it is also the site of the worst resistance in Iraq...
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Yes, and the rest of the world would be happy to chow down on Saddam's schlong as long as there was some profit to be made from it, right? |
Ah so the US wanted to come out of the shadows and stop chowing down with the rest and just raid the place in a huge (and ongoing) smash and grab operation...
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Ah yes, a peace-loving resident gives an objective rendition of how a city of 300,000 Saddamite loyalist only had about 50 guerillas, and everyone else was happily strewing daisies about in the streets until the evil US raped and plundered and pillaged without provocation and drove the poor, peace loving Saddamites to desperation. Sorta reminds me of the old days, like that ******* before the first war who was set up to badger a reporter on TV, and when the Iraqi handlers got the reporter to ask the heckler for his name, the ******* replied "Uy em Saddam Hussein. We ur all Saddam Hussein." |
Well at least you're beginning to admit that you think the entire city is a nest of vipers - well we'd better kill them all then!
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If we applied Saddam's tactics, Iraqi blood would be flowing all the way downriver and out the Arabian gulf past the straights of Hormuz. |
Ah well you see, the US helicopter gunships are more 'precise', unlike the ones that Saddam sent to crush the Shi'ites as the US stood by...
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Keep whining, though, you'll get it something right eventually. Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day, so don't give up hope yet. |
Wouldn't that be stooping to your levels?
I'll say this, your track record isn't as bad as the chickenhawks for getting stuff spectacularly wrong - but I wouldn't blow my trumpet either if I were you...
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:35
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Like those in Sadr city in Baghdad that killed at least 8 marines - they were happy too
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And as I've said all along, there are lots of groups with lots of agendas in Iraq.
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I'd say being the scene of one of the largest number of civilians killed through 'colateral damage' during GWI and that crowd of 15 civilians killed last year didn't help either - it is the site of those two attacks and, gee, it is also the site of the worst resistance in Iraq...
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Maybe being the host of so many high-level Iraqi military, intel and air defence control facilities had something to do with all that "collateral damage." Not to mention the IRG units present in both wars, as well as the logistical links and airfields that were attacked repeatedly in the first war to isolate the KTO from supplies and reinforcemeont. Naaaah, they're just all peaceloving bureaucrats with the Iraqi Department of Parks and Recreation.
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Ah so the US wanted to come out of the shadows and stop chowing down with the rest and just raid the place in a huge (and ongoing) smash and grab operation...
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Yep, it's ours now, and no more of that sour taste, either. 
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Well at least you're beginning to admit that you think the entire city is a nest of vipers - well we'd better kill them all then!
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Not all of 'em, just most of 'em. Do you really think Saddam wanted just anyone there, given the prominence Fallujah has played in his pseudo-Praetorian Guard view of his self-protection? We don't have to kill 'em all, just the ones who don't realize they're under new management and refuse to get with the program.
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Ah well you see, the US helicopter gunships are more 'precise', unlike the ones that Saddam sent to crush the Shi'ites as the US stood by...
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I don't remember the Brits or anyone else chomping at the bit to help the Shiites knock off Saddam, and they weren't capable of winning in the first place. Besides, most of Saddam's dealing with the Kurds and Shiites was up close and personal. You don't need much "precision" to carry out mass executions of civilians.
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I'll say this, your track record isn't as bad as the chickenhawks for getting stuff spectacularly wrong - but I wouldn't blow my trumpet either if I were you... |
As long as our people are getting killed and we're not swimming in tankerloads of cheap oil, nobody has cause to blow their trumpets yet.
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LoneWolf
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
No, the reason is the Brits are much better at occupation duties than you are. They have centuries of experience with it. |
This much is true. But then, so do the French.
Oh, wait, they're on the other side this time. Never mind.
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LoneWolf
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Oh man, MrFun, don't rise to the bait.
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LoneWolf
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Oh, AH if only this was true, maybe they would have some respect. It is better to be feared than loved.
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LoneWolf
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You know, if you are going to win a war, you need to shoot.
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