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of Iowa
Nov 2000
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Originally posted by Agathon
Yet again a post with no substance. At least Giancarlo attempts to argue his points. The results may be hilarious, but kudos to him for trying, unlike some people. |
His arguments are not funny, much less grounded in rationality and logic.
Last edited by MrFun on 09-04-2004 at 23:26
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Lincoln
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Yeah. We should have instituted the Patriot Act long ago so we would have had the tools necessary to catch these people. We should have stopped all air traffic just in case and also we should have isolated all Arab looking people and done whatever else was necessary to stop these people before they destroyed the WTC. You cannot be too careful, and no suspension of civil liberties is too harsh when you have a threat like this to consider. Bush has no excuse for not shutting down the entire country if necessary and forcing everyone to remain in their homes just in case... And 70 full field FBI investigations is not near enough. There should have been at least 7,000.
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Lincoln
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Sorry. I am in a sarcastic mood. Please forgive me...
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Lincoln
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Boredom can lead in many directions.
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DAVOUT
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AUERSTADT
Jun 2002
time: 05:35
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For the President Only
Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US
Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate (Osama) Bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in US television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America".
After US missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a ...(edited)... service.
An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told a ... (edited) ... service at the same time that Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the US to mount a terrorist strike.
The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US.
Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that Bin Laden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation.
Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own US attack.
Ressam says Bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation.
Although Bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks.
Bin Laden associates surveilled our embassies in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.
Al-Qaeda members - including some who are US citizens - have resided in or travelled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks.
Two al-Qaeda members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were US citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.
A clandestine source said in 1998 that a Bin Laden cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ... (edited)... service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other US-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Laden-related.
The CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May saying that a group of Bin Laden supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.
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Rather than having the memo disclosed, the commission should have asked : Is there any reference to the WTC in the memo? 
Seriously, this memo is a summary of intelligence knowledge on Ossama Bin Laden; saying that it is historical is stupid; saying that it does not mention that hijack airplanes could be used as missiles is also stupid. The NSA implies that short of a memo saying that within one month the WTC will be stricken by two hijack planes, no action could be engaged. As a matter of fact, Condi Rice acts more as a coordinator than as an advisor; as noted by Woodward (in Bush at war), she is reluctant to give her opinion, preferring to take side when the President has made known his preference.
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09-04-2004 17:39
I think I better go get my eyes checked... did I read right?
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