21-04-2004 21:37									#91
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Random Civ. Random Map. Random Game. Although the Maya are my current favorites.

	22-04-2004 10:19									#92
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So now we are 20, lets make 4 games with 5 in each.
And have the same map in all game. This could be really fun.

	22-04-2004 18:35									#93
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I offer my services if you want to have a human-made map ...

:-)

	22-04-2004 18:56									#94
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quote: Originally posted by jagjef So now we are 20, lets make 4 games with 5 in each. And have the same map in all game. This could be really fun.

I would suggest 5 games of four each with the same map.

Only four per PBEM should make them go faster.

And if it works out maybe we could clump the Europeans and the North Americans into the same PBEMs so we could all get online occassionally and crank out some turns.

I think (im not sure where everyone is from) that MWIA is the only Kiwi/ Aussie we have so maybe we can get him on a team with three west coasters so the time difference would not be all that great.

This is just a thought to try and speed up the process.

	23-04-2004 06:37									#95
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I figure we'll go with 4 games of 5. We wanted to simulate the C3C ISDG rules where the goal is to be one of the 3 survivors, and now we can do that with all games.

I'll work on splitting up the players soon.

	23-04-2004 09:23									#96
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Having BFM make a universal map would seem a good idea to me, assuming he's willing to set up all those first turn moves for each one.

	23-04-2004 09:26									#97
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster I offer my services if you want to have a human-made map ... :-)

sounds good

	23-04-2004 16:25									#98
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So... uh... Kloreep? Who is in what game?

	24-04-2004 00:31									#99
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx Having BFM make a universal map would seem a good idea to me, assuming he's willing to set up all those first turn moves for each one.

I agree.

	24-04-2004 01:09									#100
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And now, the moment I know you've all been waiting for with bated breath...

Here's the sorting. Note that I have people in order purely by timezone; the players in each game should refine it among themselves. Also, if BFM is starting these off, it might be more convenient for him if the order is rotated around so that the first player is in a timezone close to BFM's.

Oh, and UnO and WIA ended up in the same game. I swear I did nothing to influence it; the random number generator just worked it out that way.

GAME 1
MrWhereItsAt: China (08)
Rhothaerill: Celts (12)
UnOrthOdOx: Japan (13)
Master Zen: Persia (14)
ZargonX: Byzantines (15)

GAME 2
Togas: Iroquois (12)
SirOsis: Random (12)
Kloreep: Mayans (14)
Octavian X: Netherlands (14)
Beta: Romans (15)

GAME 3
Paddy the Scot: Celts (05)
Arnelos: Carthage (13)
conmcb25: Iroquois (14)
GodKing: Random (15)
jagjef: France (21)

GAME 4
Makahlua: Byzantines (14)
Sharpe: Iroquois (15)
Donegeal: Celts (20)
Krill: Carthage (20)
Aidun: Netherlands (21)

	24-04-2004 02:58									#101
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quote: MrWhereItsAt: China (08) Rhothaerill: Celts (12) UnOrthOdOx: Japan (13) Master Zen: Persia (14) ZargonX: Byzantines (15)

MZ and UnO in one game?

* ZargonX goes to put on his War-hat...

	24-04-2004 03:06									#102
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Perhaps they'll gang up on WIA. Or perhaps we'll all gang up on WIA.

BTW Zargon, what is it with you and the Byzantines? You play them in at least two PBEMs that I know of, and now a third. Have you got a thing for Theodora?

	24-04-2004 04:37									#103
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Um... Just to let you know, my timezone is US Central, but my playtime is more compatible with that of Germany (GWT +1 or +2). I play at about 8:00 am Central.

	24-04-2004 05:48									#104
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China and Japan... the two great East Asian civs.... perhaps we will start right next to each other? Of course we have to survive MZ's Immortals and Rho's Gallics first....

What are the numbers after each name, exactly? They are related to timezone, but how exactly?

	24-04-2004 06:44									#105
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Right, when do the games start?

	24-04-2004 07:17									#106
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt What are the numbers after each name, exactly? They are related to timezone, but how exactly?

It's simply the time in each timezone when I made the tentative playing orders, according to the timezone listed for each person.

quote: Originally posted by Krill Right, when do the games start?

We need two things:
A. Finalized playing orders
B. We need a map (BFM? You still up for it? )

Once those are done with, the games can begin.

	24-04-2004 07:36									#107
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quote: BTW Zargon, what is it with you and the Byzantines? You play them in at least two PBEMs that I know of, and now a third. Have you got a thing for Theodora?

I think it's clear that I do, thankyouverymuch. And if you've got a problem with that, talk to the Dromons

	24-04-2004 13:35									#108
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Well, I can play any time between 5-10pm GMT week days, and whenever (except 10pm-6am GMT) on the weekends.

	24-04-2004 18:25									#109
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OK, as nobody picked the Maya - give me them in my game please - weak UU, but great traits. And that ability to get some extra workers from those barbarians is so nice.

	25-04-2004 10:28									#110
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GK given the Maya.

And on the turn orders: General playing times are good for the other players to know. But if you want changes in the playing orders, please suggest specific ones. I'm too lazy/time constrained to sort through what everyone's posted about their playing times and make adjustments. Not to mention dealing with more than two timezones at once can make my head spin.

	25-04-2004 10:48									#111
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muahahahaha... Game 1 looks like it's going to be a sadistic kill-fest!




btw, I'm at -6 GMT (CDT for you north americans). I usually play PBEMs in the morning and at night.

	26-04-2004 05:09									#112
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I play in the evenings and on the weekends. US Eastern timezone (GMT -5)

	26-04-2004 05:38									#113
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Kloreep,

I assume that once we get the map/scenario, we can probably figure things out and start. Is the first turn going to be played through by the admin or something first?

	26-04-2004 06:13									#114
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As the Oracle predicted, WIA is doomed to fall by my hands.


Hmm. Time for a new avatar...

As for times I really end up playing: Weekdays, usually end up playing evening Mountain time, though that's only due to the fact I rarely have any waiting me in the ungodly AM hours I'm always online before work (AKA around midnight for WIA...). Weekends...just scattered whenever I can log on.

	26-04-2004 06:17									#115
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My play times are whenever - so I am happy to fit in to the spot given

	26-04-2004 07:40									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Kloreep, I assume that once we get the map/scenario, we can probably figure things out and start. Is the first turn going to be played through by the admin or something first?

Yeah, the map is the main thing; we can always just go with current playing order.

As for the first turn, I was thinking we'd have an admin (BFM if he does a map for us?) play each first player's first turn so we can get an admin password set, and play on from there.

However, we could also do the skip-everyone's-first-turn (so the admin can enter passwords) method.

Now that I think about it, I think that's what we should do; while I don't like the break from the normal Civ3 date system, the game can be brought in line by adding an extra turn on to the beginning and "starting" in 4050 BC.

	26-04-2004 07:50									#117
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well better that all miss there 1st turns than just the 1st players...

	26-04-2004 08:02									#118
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No, I wasn't thinking the first player's turns would be skipped; rather that the admin would send them screenies and have them give orders so the admin could play for them.

However, skipping everyone's first turn while the admin enters passwords should work better. And it's not inconvenient for the admin to do it for people they can't meet in chat.

	26-04-2004 08:13									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep No, I wasn't thinking the first player's turns would be skipped; rather that the admin would send them screenies and have them give orders so the admin could play for them.

That works. I've done that before.

	26-04-2004 08:48									#120
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Let's just get them rolling!!