17-04-2004 23:22									#1
	Israel Kills Rantisi, New Hamas Leader. Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

A chopper fired rockets at a car Rantisi was in with a bodyguard and his son, all of whom are killed.

Rantisi is clinically dead.

You can't count the Gaza Strip Hamas leadership on one hand now

	17-04-2004 23:24									#2
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Hopefully, it will send the Hamas leadership into even more disarray, just like the death of Yassin. Btw, just as I thought, there was no increase in casualties after his death.

Indeed, .

	17-04-2004 23:26									#3
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After we put ourselves at risk saving Sharon's political arse, he does this!?!?

	17-04-2004 23:27									#4
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The world just got a little lighter.

	17-04-2004 23:28									#5
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How many dead bystanders?

	17-04-2004 23:29									#6
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Why not do this? Last time they popped the leader Hamas really didn't do anything much. All those who said all hell would break lose with Yassin were proven totally wrong.

	17-04-2004 23:31									#7
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quote: How many dead bystanders?

none.

I think some injured, but the missiles were quite accurate.

Trust me - it's a difficult thing. Many times after the rocket was launched, sometimes people would come from around the corner, and the pilot doesn't have enough time to divert the missile.

quote: After we put ourselves at risk saving Sharon's political arse, he does this!?!?

Excuse me?

Since when is killing terrorists against US or Israeli policy?

In the contrary - this weakens Hamas even further, reducing it's chances of taking over the Gaza Strip once Israel is out.

	17-04-2004 23:32									#8
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If only someone could kill Sharon.

	17-04-2004 23:33									#9
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It's actually confirmed as being Israeli action? If so, .

	17-04-2004 23:35									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov quote: How many dead bystanders? none.

OK, so it does deserve the bit.

	17-04-2004 23:36									#11
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Well, hell, Aggy, keep talking like that and maybe an intelligence group or two will put you on their hit list.

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	17-04-2004 23:36									#12
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Has Hamas announced a successor yet?

	17-04-2004 23:36									#13
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Spiffor is a Zionazi.

	17-04-2004 23:38									#14
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Hamas didn't.

Rantisi self proclaimed himself to inherit Yassin's role. Now he's dead too.


The real leader of Hamas is Haled Mash'al, in Damascus (Syrian terror links, anyone?). Israel botched an assassination attempt at him in 1996. Mossad agents were caught, and traded for the realease of late Yassin form jail. Nasty bussiness.

	17-04-2004 23:40									#15
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I actually still can't see any IDF commentary - there are witness reports of a helicopter, but seems to be no official confirmation of it being an Israeli airstrike yet.

	17-04-2004 23:41									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov Excuse me?

No.

Unless you plan on going after top Hamas leaders in Syria & Lebanon this action serves little purpose and is the equivilant of poking a bee hive with a stick.

	17-04-2004 23:42									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If only someone could kill Sharon.

If only someone could kill any random leader.

	17-04-2004 23:42									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If only someone could kill Sharon.

You're dumb. Sharon is a stablizing factor and is needed.

	17-04-2004 23:44									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Spiffor is a Zionazi.

Nope, but I loathe extremists from both sides with a passion. I want peace in this area, and that can only be done if the extremists are made irrelevant.
I would object the kill of a small fish, as it can only worsen the hatred with no tangible results, but the death of a hate-stirrer is good news IMHO.

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Congrats Israel! One less terrorist leader to worry about.

	17-04-2004 23:44									#21
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quote: Unless you plan on going after top Hamas leaders in Syria & Lebanon this action serves little purpose and is the equivilant of poking a bee hive with a stick.

Wrong.
What we did before (random assassinations of mediocre level leaders) was poking a bee hive.

The Hamas in Gaza is in bad shape now. No chief leadership.

And I can't comment any further.

quote: I actually still can't see any IDF commentary - there are witness reports of a helicopter, but seems to be no official confirmation of it being an Israeli airstrike yet.

official confirmation on Israeli TV - 2 rockets fired on his car.

	17-04-2004 23:46									#22
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Well Sirot, they would be in bad shape because you guys keep killing their leaders heheheh. Good riddance, and I hope you all get rid of more of them.

	17-04-2004 23:46									#23
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quote: official confirmation on Israeli TV - 2 rockets fired on his car.

Cheers, then.

	17-04-2004 23:47									#24
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quote: Unless you plan on going after top Hamas leaders in Syria & Lebanon this action serves little purpose and is the equivilant of poking a bee hive with a stick.

How so? The link between the leadership abroad, and the one in the territories is lacking. They do money transfers, and arms transfers. They don't conduct operations on the ground, in Israel.

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so,whose next?

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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov The Hamas in Gaza is in bad shape now. No chief leadership.

There's this wonderful thing called telecommunications. Perhaps you've heard of it. Now since the Hamas leadership residing in Syria & Lebanon seems to be safe from any sort of Israeli retaliation, I fail to see how the organization is adrift and leaderless.

	17-04-2004 23:50									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel [q]The link between the leadership abroad, and the one in the territories is lacking. They do money transfers, and arms transfers. They don't conduct operations on the ground, in Israel.

Don't they have terrorist training camps? Or were those not Hamas's?

	17-04-2004 23:52									#28
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How long until someone mentions "dreaded reprisals(tm)" and "cycle of violence(tm)"...

	17-04-2004 23:55									#29
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quote: Don't they have terrorist training camps? Or were those not Hamas's?

What do you think, that Hamas and IJ here can send men to Syria ?

The training camps are for Hamas and IJ personel in Syria.

	17-04-2004 23:58									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Edan How long until someone mentions "dreaded reprisals(tm)" and "cycle of violence(tm)"...

I have stopped talking about it, because I think the cycle of violence and hatred has pretty much reached full velocity.