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Has anyone seen any news with military officers actually explaining the military situation on the ground? The situation seems to get worse day by day. What are the actual number of effective US ground units? How is the supply situation? What is the precise number of 'insurgents'. How loyal is the Iraqi army? Are the Coalition allies capable of defending the southern supply route? Are they even going to stay? Where is the UN? Will NATO get involved?
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
That's pretty false. The British military won't pull out.
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[Blair's] warnings came as the commander of British troops in southern Iraq, Brig Nick Carter, admitted that he would be powerless to prevent the overthrow of Coalition forces if the Shia majority in Basra rose up in rebellion. Brig Carter, of the 20 Armoured Brigade, who has been in Iraq for four months, said British forces would stay in Basra with the consent of local Shia leaders, or not at all.
Last month, 14 British soldiers were injured in Basra, at least three seriously, when they came under attack from demonstrators armed with petrol bombs, rocks and a grenade.
"A crowd of 150,000 people at the gates of this barracks would be the end of this, as far as I'm concerned," Brig Carter said. "There would be absolutely nothing I could do about that."
Senior military officials fear that insurgents may be planning a "spectacular" as they mount last-ditch efforts to disrupt the US-led timetable of restoring sovereignty to Iraq. Fighting in the Sunni-dominated city of Fallujah, west of Baghdad, where an estimated 1,000 Iraqis died in clashes last week between American soldiers and mujahideen rebels, is causing particular concern. |
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
The situation is not getting worse and is infact getting better. |
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BAGHDAD, April 17 (Reuters) - Insurgents blew up bridges over a main highway from Baghdad to southern Iraq, further disrupting the country's battered transport system, witnesses said on Saturday.
They said debris from blasts targeting at least two bridges closed the Baghdad-Hilla road, one of two highways leading to the port city of Basra.
The U.S.-led administration said in a statement that two highways, including the Basra-Hilla route, were closed for repairs and to help halt guerrilla attacks against U.S. forces and supply convoys.
The U.S. military said it had no information about blasts targeting highway bridges.
But a traveller who came from Hilla said: "The guerrillas are after U.S. supply lines. American convoys are having to drive off the highway and go through rough terrain around the bridges."
The military also closed another main highway leading north of Baghdad on Saturday.
Sunni and Shi'ite Muslim insurgents in central and southern Iraq have severely disrupted the transport system, harmed trade, and restricted supply routes.
Iraq's oil ministry has stopped importing gasoline through Syria, Jordan and the Gulf because of poor security along western and southern highways.
The western highway leading to Syria and Jordan is deemed too dangerous to travel as insurgents fight U.S. forces in and around the city of Falluja. |
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/OWE751830.htm
Now it seems to me that the supply situation is getting worse. this is classic military doctrine. first the supplylines are cut. And then the attack begins. Also flyers have been passed in Baghdad by the Combined Mujahedin Brigades warning people to stay indoors.
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
They can't be as the coalition has a firm control of the land and the air. As long as they have a firm force in the air, the rebels can't cut supplies. |
US Airforce in region according to Global Security:
425 aircraft of all types
175 helicopters
220 Tomahawks
Also it has been reported that the insurgents have anti-air capability.I am not saying that it is incurably bad, but it does not look as if the US air component is very high, especally since the US has lost the initiative.
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Originally posted by Pekka
The US lost initiative only in Fallujah. |
Troops in or near Bagdad.
12,000 1st armoured divsion
15.000 1st Cavalry Division
Ramadiyah (70 miles west of Baghdad)
10.000 82nd Airborne Divsion Ramadiyah
Why can't these forces keep the roads around Baghdad open? Or keep the CPA headquarters in Baghdad safe from mortar attacks? It looks to me that they are just sitting in their bases.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:35
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Wow, look at all the first graders debating in this thread...why, it so pathetic.
On Zapatero-he stated he would withdraw troops by (not on, not after, by) JUne 30th unless there was a UN mandate in place in Iraq. What he said is that he does not believe there will be a UN mandate in Iraq on June 30 or after (the UN prepresentative has created a plan for the form of a caretaker government-does not mean a UN mandate), and he does not see the possibility either (and given pronouncements by Bush, he is probalby correct), so Spanish troops will leave.
UNless the definition of the word by was ammended recently, he is doing what he said he would. As for international condemnation? From who, the mouth-breathing raving nuts on the right? (Fez?) Well, they don't really matter, now do they?
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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970
time: 21:35
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Originally posted by GePap
Wow, look at all the first graders debating in this thread...why, it so pathetic.
On Zapatero-he stated he would withdraw troops by (not on, not after, by) JUne 30th unless there was a UN mandate in place in Iraq. What he said is that he does not believe there will be a UN mandate in Iraq on June 30 or after (the UN prepresentative has created a plan for the form of a caretaker government-does not mean a UN mandate), and he does not see the possibility either (and given pronouncements by Bush, he is probalby correct), so Spanish troops will leave.
UNless the definition of the word by was ammended recently, he is doing what he said he would. As for international condemnation? From who, the mouth-breathing raving nuts on the right? (Fez?) Well, they don't really matter, now do they? |
Fez just dogged you out and proved you wrong, man.
You got dogged out by a first grader!!! 
*points at Gepap, laughs*
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19-04-2004 01:15
There are plenty of others roads to get into Baghdad. Again you prove your total ignorance of the fact that you know nothing about what is happening. WTF is wrong with you anyways? Why do you want the coalition to lose? Warning people to stay indoors? 
Not even reading my posts.
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