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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:35
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Agathon, come on, that's like claiming 10 years old results count on how good a team is right now. The best indicator of how good the team is by seeing where it now is. That makes Flames a pretty good team, now doesn't it?
Sometimes the better team loses, but Flames have endured the playoffs so far, and that's best out of 7 so that has very little to do with cruising through on PURE luck.
You can't measure how good the team is by looking at its rosters only. It only matters how the team performs, and in that, Flames are pretty damn good. They might be over performing, but that's a sign of a great team. Or else we don't even have to play this season but give the trophy to the Avs.
What I'm saying is, that you might get lucky and win few games and beat the better team. But if you beat 'the better teams' over and over again in the playoffs, well.. that tells you something, maybe they play as a team better and get better results because their TEAM is performing better. Maybe the other team has better individuals, but individual success is not measured in team sports. Plus, if these great individuals can't put the team game to work against a lesser opponent.. they really are not that good if they get beat up game after game (playoffs).
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:35
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Stats don't tell the whole story since the quality of opposition and of the opposition chances don't show up anywhere.
Both Kipper and Eddie have played amazing, almost supernatural in a number of games . .. and both have had other games where they looked normal and got shelled ( they never looked terrible IMHO)
Who's better?? Long term the nod obviously goes to Eddie-- longer better track record-- This year if I had one game to win . . . I don't know-- too close to call
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:35
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To me, if a team wins a series over another team, they are, by definition , the better team in that series. period.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:35
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One newspaper columnist's view on the Flames:
"VILLAIN NIEMINEN: Ville Nieminen's mindless mugging of Curtis Joseph at the end of Game 4 not only penalized his team harshly due to a suspension but also adds to the reputation the Flames have of being one of the league's sorest losers.
While cheered on by a home crowd equally as frustrated with the game's developments, the move with seconds remaining is exactly what hockey doesn't need.
That, and the (justified) beating of Kirk Maltby by Shean Donovan that followed, is just one of several examples of last-second goonery the Flames are becoming known for.
Although Jarome Iginla's decision to fight Derian Hatcher late in Game 2 (followed by Mike Commodore taking on Darren McCarty) was lauded at the time as sending a necessary message that the Flames didn't have too much respect for the Wings, it was nothing more than frustration.
In that vein, it wasn't much different than Darryl Sutter's suspension-inducing decision late in the season to have Robyn Regehr, Mike Commodore and Krzysztof Oliwa line up for a line brawl against Nashville in the dying seconds, harkening back to the record-setting slugfest two years ago against Anaheim.
Iginla's last-minute fight against Mattias Ohlund was different as he was responding to a vicious cheap shot the way every NHLer should.
Nieminen's indiscretion will almost certainly be a big blow to an already depleted lineup. The league was correct in handing down the one gamer.
Incidentally, the Wings are well aware of Nieminen's act as the agitator has now faced them 14 times this season, including six as a Blackhawk. "
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Agathon
Just because the underdogs win doesn't mean they have the better team. Manchester United got beat by Wolves this year, would you say Wolves had the better team? |
if 1 is > than 0 does that mean 0 is > than 1?
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Pekka
There is no fact, only opinions on this matter. |
The columnist is point out a trend about how Calgary behaves when they're loosing.
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:35
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tingkai, if the best chance of canadians winning the cup is a loss tomorrow, then i feel bad for ya
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:35
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asher, you should be banned from using hyperbole, you bad boy you!
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:35
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quote:
Originally posted by MRT144
tingkai, if the best chance of canadians winning the cup is a loss tomorrow, then i feel bad for ya |
It'll be a hard game tomorrow. The Flyers are great team, but the Leafs can win it if everything goes well.
As for the Flames-Wings, I'm hopping for a Flames shut-out with Iginla scoring the winning goal. That would be great for my hockey pool. I've got Iginla on my team and I'm fighting off guys who loaded on Detroit.
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04-05-2004 00:43
Or at least that's what Tingkai wanted us to believe. 
)and gave due respect to Iginla and Kip.
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