05-05-2004 06:58									#391
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Come on Avs!

And congrats to the Flyers who won in OT.

	05-05-2004 07:06									#392
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And so Calgary is the only Canadian team still alive...

	05-05-2004 07:08									#393
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lets hear it. AVS SUCK AVS SUCK AVS SUCK AVS SUCK. Kariya gets paid way to much to hustle down the ice to play dfence. thank god for that, or i'd be 2-1

	05-05-2004 07:09									#394
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I wish I had TSN.

	05-05-2004 07:11									#395
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COME ON AVS LET'S GO!

	05-05-2004 07:16									#396
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Jagermeister and La Meuw advance the penguins to round next; thread over

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=114231

	05-05-2004 07:17									#397
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c'mon Avs

Jose's just a bunch of fags

	05-05-2004 07:49									#398
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Avs lose 1-3... damn..

Next year will be interesting to see how the team builds up... I don't expect to see Granato there anymore. Forsberg is going back to Sweden to his old team, and the expensive but not as effective as hoped for Kariya-Selänne axis might be under the chopping block too...

	05-05-2004 09:35									#399
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****, ****, ****, ****

	05-05-2004 09:41									#400
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That sucked.

Kariya and Selänne are definitely gone. Both had cheap 1 year deals and wanted a shot at winning the cup. Kariya was injured for most of the year and there are rumors that Selänne wasn't very happy about playing 2nd fiddle to the other Avs forwards.

Avs still got a lot of talent for next year, and with the inevitable dismantling of Detroit they'll still be a very strong contender in the west.

	05-05-2004 10:22									#401
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AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA SUCK ON BOFA DEEZ NUTS - SHARKS GOING TO ROUND 3 FIRST TIME EVERY. PROOF THAT YOUNG AND GOOD ALWAYS BEATS OLD AND EXPERIENCED.

	05-05-2004 10:25									#402
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and zylka ur wrng again -the flamers are the fags.

	05-05-2004 15:57									#403
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia and zylka ur wrng again -the flamers are the fags.

Unfortunately, the Flames will burn the Sharks, even if they are fags.

	05-05-2004 17:06									#404
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Great, what a year for the NHL. All the attacking teams are gone and the trappers remain. Nice to see the NHL enforcing the rules properly so that skilled players dominate.

Not even worth watching, especially as three out of the four remaining teams are no hopers that no one really cares about.

Quinn should be fired. He's had six years and produced nothing. And Jeremy Roenick is a classy guy.

	05-05-2004 19:00									#405
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yeah how about that Roenick? What a player... always liked him. First thing I remember of him was years back when he was hit and he did a slap shot at the same time and scored.. beautiful goal.

It's interesting though, Kapanen took a HUGE hit and was clearly rocked big time and if he had just stayed down because he had to try to get up like 5 times and fell everytime, Flyers couldn't have scored like they did. He's small but he's a tough mofo!

	05-05-2004 19:53									#406
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Great, what a year for the NHL. All the attacking teams are gone and the trappers remain. Nice to see the NHL enforcing the rules properly so that skilled players dominate.

Wow, it took longer than I thought for a Leaf fan to whine about the officiating -- a whole twelve hours .

Have you even watched the Lightning, for instance? They didn't beat the Habs by trapping -- that team is at its best when it's in full-on attack mode. You only get them in trouble by forechecking the hell out of their defense, and Montreal couldn't sustain that. Plus, any defensive mistake you make against the Lightning winds up in the back of your net. Or do you think guys like Richards, Lecavalier, and St. Louis aren't skilled players?

Calgary doesn't trap either. They're sound defensively and have a great goaltender, yes, but they do have a quick transition game and they work their asses off at both ends of the rink. Sutter damn well should win coach of the year, and I think he could've done wonders with either the Habs or Leafs in these playoffs, both of whom suffered too many letdowns & breakdowns, something you'd be hard-pressed to say of the Flames.

As for the Flyers -- seven goals in game 5. No skill?

Haven't seen much of the Sharks in these playoffs.

This year's playoffs are way better than last year's fiasco with the Devils, Ducks, and Wild in the final four. Now that was trap-hell.

quote: Not even worth watching, especially as three out of the four remaining teams are no hopers that no one really cares about.

Leaf fans can be such terrible losers -- you really oughta be used to it by now, though .

Me, I'll jump on the Calgary bandwagon. Is there room, Asher?

	05-05-2004 20:23									#407
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quote: Originally posted by Asher And so Calgary is the only Canadian team still alive...

GO FLAMES!!!

	06-05-2004 02:28									#408
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Great, what a year for the NHL. All the attacking teams are gone and the trappers remain. Nice to see the NHL enforcing the rules properly so that skilled players dominate.

Do you even know what the **** the trap is?

This is just sad...

You're apparently nothing more than the typical FOB using buzzwords he's heard from his friends in a vain attempt to show knowledge of the sport...

	06-05-2004 02:33									#409
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haha

calling hima FOB

	06-05-2004 02:34									#410
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He is.

He's a recent immigrant, he's a hockey virgin.

	06-05-2004 02:40									#411
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By the way, if all the attacking teams are gone, how come Calgary has scored more goals in the playoffs than Toronto?

By the way, for Tingkai's benefit...

Kipper GAA: 1.92
Belfour GAA: 2.09

Not to mention that the Flames were playing the #1 team in the league, while TO was play comparatively easy teams. And then there's the purported awesome-defense of Toronto that apparently can't compare to Calgary's.

Would you still take Belfour over Kipper in a playoff team, Tingkai?

	06-05-2004 03:01									#412
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Great, what a year for the NHL. All the attacking teams are gone and the trappers remain. Nice to see the NHL enforcing the rules properly so that skilled players dominate. Not even worth watching, especially as three out of the four remaining teams are no hopers that no one really cares about. Quinn should be fired. He's had six years and produced nothing. And Jeremy Roenick is a classy guy.

Stop trolling. Do you really think that Tampa is a trap team?

	06-05-2004 03:05									#413
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He just doesn't know what the trap is. He's accused the Flames of always playing a trap before too.

It just sounds fancy and is an easy way to troll.

	06-05-2004 04:00									#414
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Do you even know what the **** the trap is? This is just sad... You're apparently nothing more than the typical FOB using buzzwords he's heard from his friends in a vain attempt to show knowledge of the sport...

1 forward up, 2 wingers back in tandem with the defencemen to clog the neutral zone and force a dump in or giveway.

Or it's sometimes used to describe an overly defensive team. It's the hockey version of the catenaccio.

None of the teams remaining play particularly exciting, skilled hockey. In the last game Calgary managed to clog the neutral zone quite well and gave Detroit no room at all.

	06-05-2004 04:07									#415
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Having said that I didn't really watch Tampa play Montreal (dull) but they played for giveaways when I saw them play the Leafs this season (quite succesfully too).

Some of the Calgary players were practically having sex with some of the Red Wings in the last couple of games. Boring.....

	06-05-2004 04:43									#416
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Give me a ****ing break, the Flames have consistently been the most fun to watch all playoffs.

They've been aggressive, they've been physical, and they've been ruthless. Maybe Toronto should take a look at what Calgary's doing and see why they win, before condemning it.

Neutral zone trap, it certainly is not. Anyone who claims it is forfeits any rights to claim they know the most basic things about hockey.

	06-05-2004 04:48									#417
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The Sharks

quote: Getting the first goal is huge against teams such as the Sharks, who trap teams to death once they take a lead, especially later in a game.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0...2117545,00.html

The Flames

quote: "They play a patient game and they trap," Avery said. "It's pretty tough to beat the trap on a consistent basis.

http://www.canoe.ca/SlamResults0212...cal_det-ap.html

As for the Flyers - Hitchcock always goes for a solid defensive minded game and did so when he was in Dallas IIRC.

As for Tampa, they played defensively for giveaways when they played the Leafs this season (then again the Leafs' generosity might have something to do with that). I haven't seen them play other teams much.

I wouldn't call any of the teams left brilliant offensive teams. Philly rely on pressure (against us anyway) and none of the others could be described as scintillating.

I thought with the Avs and Wings winning in consecutive years that the boring stuff was over, but the Devils proved me wrong last year.

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AHAHAHAHAHA join the *ing club with TKG, Aggy

GOOD TO SEE THE REFEREES LET ALL THE CRAPPY TEAMS THROUGH, GEEZZS GUYS WEIRD OFFICIATING OH BOY THAT'S IT

what a complete *ing loser joke

	06-05-2004 04:52									#419
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Give me a ****ing break, the Flames have consistently been the most fun to watch all playoffs.

Watching them smack people about is fun. I'll admit that.

quote: They've been aggressive, they've been physical, and they've been ruthless. Maybe Toronto should take a look at what Calgary's doing and see why they win, before condemning it.

They were doing the same. The Flames were playing an aggressive smothering game against Detroit and it worked. But two goals in two games is not much fun.

quote: Neutral zone trap, it certainly is not. Anyone who claims it is forfeits any rights to claim they know the most basic things about hockey.

Like those who play against them?

Anyway, I hate to say this, but I hope Philly wins solely to get Roenick a cup. I hate the Flyers (especially that **** Clarke and chickenshit Brashear) but I can't bring myself to say a bad word about JR - he's just great.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Give me a ****ing break, the Flames have consistently been the most fun to watch all playoffs. They've been aggressive, they've been physical, and they've been ruthless. Maybe Toronto should take a look at what Calgary's doing and see why they win, before condemning it.

apparently you haven't been watching the same Leafs as myself and FOB boy. did you see their moves?? their outright CONFIDENCE in front of the net for those not at all hackneyed (though embarassingly failing) one timers??? their unwillingness to fight for the puck in the corner end for fear of actually having to make physically contact?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA the Leafs were just ROBBED by outright strange officiating this year, yup!