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duke o' york is offline duke o' york

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Oct 2001
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I've downloaded the last save, and will try to get some turns in this evening.

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Well my badminton club's closed for the evening because someone with more money than us wanted to use the hall so I should get a few turns in. I'm nto sure of the state of the game at the moment, but I had a look at the rules on the first page of the thread and will follow them with care.

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I think you will have great fun with this one.

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1020 - Washington falls. Only three more Japanese cities left, and New York has no defenders after the trusty crooks smashed their phalanx.
Our dip destroys the barracks in Athens, but not the walls. I move crooks into position around Thebes, the legions can't touch us aboard boats!

1040 - New York falls for 64g. Two cities left... Now if only I knew where they were.

1060 - Thebes brings 150g for the capture of the barb leader.

1080 - Athens falls. Hladir falls. duke's turn comes to an abrupt end when the duchess wants to "talk". And presumably, me to pay attention too. Damn!

Fortunately the "talk" wasn't a "talk" after all, she just wanted to chat.
But that still only means 4 turns were played. However, 4 capitals fell (all right, one was held by the barbs and I'd like to thank my trusty caravels for beating 2 legions outside the newly-captured city) and the Japanese have only 2 cities left! I discovered one of them, and since the other is Kiev then that will be in the area too. Rar anyone?

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May I?

I have the save - any special rules I should bear in mind?

Stu

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Just a couple of special rules in addtion to the 'Poly constraints (no re-homing, etc.)

#2 -- If anyone discovers Industrialization, we lose. GAME OVER.

#1 -- The last tech we will research is Tactics. (better get Magnetism beforehand…)

We're the Sioux -- and we'd like to get back with all those folks who smacked us with better technology.

Saved game is from the start -- better for those who know that side of the game to give us the best starrt possible.

Bloodlust.
MGE. Giga.
Restarts…ON. .


Stu,

Here is the kickoff post. We will not want to do much now in the way of further research as that is the ONLY way we can lose this. Restarts being on means we can not get a clear win until 1500ad, when that goes away. I suggest not killing every last city of any AI, but leaving one zoo for each. No sense making this any harder by having to search the world for any restarts. This one will be a ROMP for a bit longer; then, it will become a time-siege.

Great to see you again!!

Monk

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May 2001
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Stu has the save.

The last four, in order of next one out are...
--Bloody Monk
--debeest
--Grigor
--duke of york

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Jan 2000
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heh I completely forgot about this... I should reinstall the game, my exe was corrupted!

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Misjudgment on my part - I doubt I can get to this before Monday now - If anyone else is eligible and free - please jump in ...

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Romp - 10 turns

After the premature abdication of Good King Rabbit a nationwide hunt for a suitable successor is launched. Although he seems to lack a pair of incisors it is finally determined that King Rodent the Rabid should succeed to the throne.
The bad guys have 22 cities - most of which need locating. Let's see what our temporary friends have to say for themselves...

1080 (0) - Gift a couple of techs to Russia in exchange for 250g & Maps - this also exposes all the Japanese cities. Similarly two techs pursuade the Egyptians to give us 50g & Maps. It costs three techs to get Maps from the Chinese. Abandon Science - sliders to 7.3.0 - set many cities ready for Celebration. Deliver Cheops caravan to Slim Buttes (16g) but 3t ongoing. Rush outstanding white goods. Here goes nothing ...

1100 (1) - Many cities celebrate. Deliveries to SB 30, 27, 36, 30 & 22 all giving nice ongoing trade arrows. 150g tribute and war with china . Ghent discovered.

1120 (2) - Kagoshima falls. 50g tribute and war with Russia. Minsk falls. Rush the odd Courthouse.

1140 (3) - Smolensk destroyed. Skara destroyed. Delphi falls. 50g tribute.

1160 (4) - not much

1180 (5) - another Courthouse

1200 (6) - Pharsalos destroyed. Moscow & Russia destroyed. Celts spawn @ (22,78). Alexandria falls we take Banking. Memphis falls we take Medicine. The missing vikings have now been located - so virtually all targets are in sight.

I pass the conch after a thoroughly enjoyable Romp.

Good stomping, Stu

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What a rabid romp you had!!

I can't look this over until tomorrow but it looks like you wasted all the Russ cities. Is this true?? Restarts being on, this may not have been the best thing. Hopefully we can find the white civ (on this huge map) sometime in the next 15 turns so we can wrap up all the civs at once as 1500 rolls around. Otherwise, it won't be such an Early Conquest after all.

Maybe I misinterpret your log.

Monk

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Celts spawn @ (22,78)


Looks like you read correctly about the Russians BM, but at least he found the Celts for you

I am of mixed mind on the AI Zoo when restarts are on, I like the idea of destroying as many civs as possible, especially in an Romp game, should make the victory all that more sweet, No?

Looks like this one is a fogone conclusion as well, just a matter of timing it for 1500 AD I suppose.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Sparrowhawk. I've never seen a respawn show itself like that before. Always learning new things about this game. And reading comprehension is a good thing too!!

There is a good reason I need to retire early tonight.

Monk

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Monk - that's what Marco is for!! I took Moscow and immediately contacted the Celts before all the bad tales about me had spread. Swapped maps et voila

Cheers, Stu

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May 2000
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Crafty move, SG. That's why we pay you the big bucks. (I agree with the Bloody one that we'd be better off with zoo cities, but Sparrowhawk does make an excellent point, so long as we can assure no industrialization.)

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Interesting four days for me but I survived and I am very surprised to see this one still waiting. Folk must be very distracted. I will play the next round, though it might not be a quick turnaround. Will finish in a few days surely. With only a turnset and a half to go before restarts end, this one should be over soon enough.

Lots to canvas before I start. It looks like we can get Democracy (thanks to Stu) and SoL and switch to Fundy. There is no discernable shipchain and we may need a few more ships, but this looks to be pretty much a shooting gallery. More later....

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I was planning to play a few turns at a time in order to finish in 3-4 days. But, I just couldn't stop; the "just one more turn" bug took over. So, I've finished the 10 turns, and things worked out very well indeed. Unfortunately, I overdid things energy-wise and need to crash. Log, save, etc, to follow when I come up from this avalanche, hopefully tomorrow.

It's a zoo world now!!

Monk

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Take your time Monk - I don't see people falling over themselves queueing to play ...

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(I had written most of this before playing. Rather than compiling a proper log, I have edited this piece to reflect what transpired. This was easier to do than typing up the log. I hope everyone will accept this form.)

Goals for the turnset will include finding and making one-city Zoo enclaves of each AI and completing requirements for Fundy Gov't (a celebrating Fundy, of course).

The save provided by Stu leaves things in excellent shape and it is a wonderful example of the effect of a Monarchy in celebration. For those who may wonder what benifit comes from a celebrating Monarchy, I suggest they take a close look at the 1200a save. A little experimenting will show that the extra arrows from celebration increases the tax haul by ~ 50%, quite a nice per-turn benifit.

By getting Banking (our current research choice) from the Egyptians, Stu has made the path open to get Democracy next and then build the Stone Lady, allowing us to switch to Fundy. This is too juicy to leave on the table!! Since science is currently set at zero, it will be necessary to make one Einstein. Otherwise, we will not be offered a new research choice. As the cash piles up from a celebrating Fundy, temples and other valuables will be purchased.

Democracy was discovered at the end of the 1260 turn; SoL was finished at the end of the next turn; and the switch was made to Fundy in 1320. By 1340, celebrations were going and the tax take increased to +661g per turn.

I do not chose to risk destroying the remaining AI cities because the restarts may not be so easy to find and get to before 1500, when the restarts end. Therefore, I will attempt to set things up so that the next player can end the game at the halfway mark of the turnset in 1500. The Barb city, Rome, will be captured as -Jrabbit has indicated a win is delayed if Barb cities are left standing. This was accomplished in 1340. The AI zoos will be encircled by attack units and dips awaiting "D-Day." The AI cities were taken or destroyed until each had one left. Were it not for the restarts "problem" the world could have been ours by 1360. Now it is just a matter of waiting.

Finally, the value of a celebrating Fundy is striking. At 1400a, our Civ is bringing in a net of 883g per turn.

Monk

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Sorry for the delay in finishing up the "paperwork". The gameplay was done four days ago. Here is the save.

Monk

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So, who wants to finish this one?? Step right up!!

Everyone except the last four are eligible.
Those are:
--Grigor
--duke of york
--SG[1]
--Bloody Monk

Perhaps Old n Slow, who gave the start and rules for this one, would like to play the last turn?? Someone have at it....

Monk

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I'll be out of town through next Tuesday, but if it's still here then, I'd be delighted to deliver the coop de grasses.

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Thanks for the kind words, Monk.

And thanks too for the fine endgame - I would probably be chasing Settlers into the 17th Century - no patience you see

It's annual leave time (yippee!!) so I shall be out of the loop until mid August -- enjoy....

Stu

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Great work guys...

The weekend is coming ... perhaps some time will open up...

The temptation builds...

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Looks like this one is yours to finish, Old n Slow...

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[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Bloody Monk [/SIZEthe extra arrows from celebration increases the tax haul by ~ 50%, quite a nice per-turn benifit.


I haven't looked at the saves, but does this 50% increase in income take into account the resources now devoted to luxuries? If so, that's more impressive than I would have expected.

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Romp -- the end

A quick glance at the map -- nice work all -- purple mountains’ majesties from sea to shining sea. Half of the ai’s villages are empty. Sixty four pikes, forty six crusaders and an assorted cast of eager support. (Barb makes our very wounded archer a vet.)

1420: Smack a few guys in the small towns just for exercise. Note the production, and move a few units resisting the impulse to just {click}, {click}, {click}. but do a lot of that anyway.

1440: Land and buy the treed Japanese Archer, just for completeness sake.

1460: Note that we are relatively rich, so we buy the shields for a wonder in Slim Buttes. Swat Corinth back to size 1.

1480: Slim Buttes opens Shakespeare’s Theatre. Decide against popping any huts -- the off chance that barbs may appear may be the only danger to upsetting the fine plan already in place. Similarly we decide to stay in the current government to avoid sullying our sterling ATROCIOUS reputation.

1500: Rather than risking the question of exact dates, we wait for yet another turn. (score check = 924)

1510: Buy Canton for 28; gain 37/ China gone.
Take Cardiff; gain all of 7 coins/ Celts gone.
Buy Corinth for 59, gain 69/ Greeks gone
Buy Kiev for 126, gain 140/ Japanese gone
Buy Elephatine for 55, gain only 29/ Egypt is gone
Buy Jorvik for 56, gain 51/ Vikings are gone.

We end with a rating of 290, score of 2232, and the title of…Magnificent.

Truly apt and merited by the participants. Thank you all.

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This one took over 3 months - not exactly what we'd hoped for Free For All, but then we did have summer vacations to contend with.

Good game.

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Thanks for the game Old n Slow!! And to all the participants, well done!!

It didn't make a lot of difference, but next time, if we are going to play an early conquest, let's have a start with restarts off.

Monk

 
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