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ooc: I don't mean to get into a flame war with you, Lazerus, so I hope it doesn't come off as such. I just think secret cities under the ground, nerve staples and seeker drones are way too sci-fi for this forum.

I think, far from enhancing role-play, it weakens it immensely, as it leads to us all trying to out-do each other in terms of creating wildly inventive future tech. I think some future tech is ok, as long as it is technically feasible in the here-and-now. Otherwise, for me at least, it is the same as someone using magic or supernatural powers. All fun, in their place. I just happen to think that this is not it.

So... rather than get into an argument with you, I thought I should just say my piece, and treat any subsequent sci-fi tech as Kim Il-Jung style ravings.

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I don't mind comments, just pm me or something so we dont waste space on the story thread. My last post explaining stuff;
Seeker drones ? you sound as if you're talking about robots ? drones = uneducated, lazy,undisciplined people
Nerve staples = north korean style brainwashing + labotomy if you want it brought into modern terms.
Cities = expanded nuclear bunkers <- abit sci-fi ish i agree due to the size but it IS possible (already in place for around several thousand important personel in England incase of nuclear attack i heard), just i doubt people of this era would like it too much therefore nobody is going to attempt it out of choice.

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[OOC: Ack! So much to attend to - not enough time to go around... Been busy all day and it's way to late to start posting here now when I have to get up and go to work in less than 6 hours and only slept about 4 hours last night. I'll try to get back into this tomorrow. In the meantime, I guess it will have to suffice to say that Guardinia is trying to figure out what the heck is going on with these "terrorists" and all...]

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OOC : i didnt think lazerus overstepped the role play... ...

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The aide ripped the telex of the printer and ran to the PResidents door. he didnt bother knocking but ran straight in. The President looked up from his desk and was about to say sometihn about knocking when he saw the look on the young mans face. He knew immediatly that something was drastically worng.

"what is it young man" Howard asked.

The aide stumbled over to the presidents desk and handed over the printout. he was speechelss.

The President read the printout slowly, his anger rising with every word. When he got to the end he glared at his aide.

"Get my council in here now, make sure Field Marshall Cosgrove is here."

The young aide nodded and hurried from the room to do as he was bid.

Th PResident slumped back in his chair and let the printout fall to the desk. Written in big bold print was
"We have your family, stop the bombardment of Thudoa or they will die"

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In response to escalating tensions over the Azanian situation, the Centralis Parliament has approved record icnreases in military spending, to be primarily spent on modernizing equipment and training.

- Centralis Ministry for Information

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The Jonchastan Central Committee would like to express its concern over the latest turn of events in the Azan situation. We remain doubtful of Auldonina's claims of terrorist insurgency, all "evidence" notwithstanding. Rather we tend to view the Azani people as acting within their sovereign, democratic rights in resisting foreign occupation.

Thus we urge all parties involved to withdraw immediately from Former Azan. To alleviate fears of "instability" in the region, we suggest mandating the Apolyton Court to administer the territory as a protectorate, until such time as a viable, local government emerges.

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In a rage of fury, President Howard ordered increased bombing of the terrorist camps and also began bombing other locations on the mainland. He was in an insane mood and nothing would stop him now.

He ordered the full destruction of the Terrorists and all that belonged to them.

He was due on national televison later in the day to state to the nation and the world his undertaking , not to negotiate with Terrorists , despite his wife and three sons being captured.

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Aboard heavy cruiser Paris Commune

"How are they coming along?" asked Captain Pak.

"Sir, the three helos are coming in according to plan. They will be landing in 10 minutes." The comm operator replied.

Villajos, the man from Special Operations, smiled. "The boys once again proved themselves the best in the world."

Several hundred metres away, a long shape broke the dark water under a moonless night sky. Seconds later, missiles blasted off from the vessel, which again quickly disappeared from the surface, leaving only a widening ring of ripples behind.

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Ali'i City, Frankychanland Capital


General Frankychan donned his cap and adjusted his sunglasses. He was to broadcast a live message to the nations of Apolyton in moments.

The cameraman signaled that he was ready. General Frankychan nodded and the broadcast began...

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"Nations of Apolyton. I am General Frankychan of Frankychanland. Some of you flat out REFUSE to acknowledge my new title....but it is of no consequence.

The recent escalation between certain nations and my own have not been without merit. But these constant accusations of warmongering from these obviously hostile nations should not be ignored. The grand nations of Auldonina and the Hive have graciously lended their support in Frankychanland's war of sovereignty and independence from outside powers.

These nations have promised to help bolster our defenses in this dark time, and I pledge that the military of Frankychanland will defend our nations sovereignty, as well as to protect our allies.

Additionally, there has been some concern about Frankychanland's treatment of the now displaced people of Azan. Let me just say that our nation helped to topple that corrupt regime and with the help of our great allies we will rebuild it to a nation that will be the envy of every other nation here in Apolyton.

But, until that time, the nation of Azan, as well as it's people and industry, are under the direct supervision of Frankychanland, Auldonina, and the Hive. Any interference will be met with deadly force.

The nations of Apolyton would do well to remember that."

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Basus Minister of Defence Elisabeth Grey and National security advisor Peter van Schilfgaarde on Channel one (Basus National television):

"Fellow countrymen and women in yesterdays Referendum you have chosen FOR the league of AN.
You have said yes to a increasing cooperation between us and jonchastan. You have said yes to a greater sense of security. Let us celebrate this great day. The Day that Basus broke the walls of isolation"

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Maps of the bombardment areas....

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The Airforce received their new orders and began saturation bombing of suspected terrorists sites.

The Navy moved into position and launched tomahawk missiles.

Transport ships were in position to offload the landing craft upon cesation of the bombing.

The Aerial Campaign had been going on now for 2 months !

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OOC: Two months! Wow! Seems things have been moving along a little faster than I was aware of...

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General Henry Fonzerelli is to meet with the newly established governemnt of Azan, helped to be set up by the great leadership of FCL.

Fonzerelli stated that with all Azanian terrorsits now located and cleared from the former territory of Azan, that there now would be a ceasation of all agression on the island.

General Fonzerelli proposed a division of the territory into three zones.

The Northern Zone of former Azan, now under Frankychan rule would be handed over in full to FCL and the FCL border would be moved south to the Great River.

A Southern zone would be created which would remian under Auldonina control for a period of time allowing the Auldonina military airfields, naval bases and army barracks to continue their fight agaisnt terrorists to the East.

An Eastern Zone will be created in which the newly formed government of Azan would be allowed freedom to re establish their ravished nation. Auldonina would assist them with finances to accomplsih this rebuild.

If FCL leadership is in agreeance then the following will be the new map.

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OOC: Two months! Wow! Seems things have been moving along a little faster than I was aware of...


OOC : sorry probably shouldnt hav ementioned time

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Centralis protests this blatantly imperialistic carve-up of Azan. The Azani people have not been consulted (those of them left alive after the FCL military finished slaughtering them, anyway); indeed, according to the latest UN Report on the country, "elections have been outlawed". Without the consent of the people, no government is legitimate, and no nation can presume to allocate territory from another without such legitimacy.

- Ricardo Micola, Minister for International Affairs

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their choice is accept or be controled totally by others.. at elast this way they have their own state .

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General Fonzerelli also reiterates that Auldonina occupation is for a limited time only and once we pull out the Azanian people can have their farm lands back.

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Their choice wa sonly that because you eliminated all other alternatives. You invaded their country, you snivelling hypocrite, you destroyed their society and drove them from their homes, you slaughtered those who fought back, you carved up their country like a pie, and you will be ground into the dust of history like every nation of your kind that has come before you. Depend upon it.

- Minister Micola, for the first time publicly losing his temper.

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no we simply solved the problem that had arisen due to their leaders inability to rule and when hte leaders went absent we fixed the problem. Now it upto the Apolyton Council to determine the future of the area.

But that is after we complete our missions.

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Guardinian operations.

OOC:
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More details to follow in next post.

Note that Guardinian Naval Forces are actually inside the FCL/Auldoninnan patrol zone on two locations, each occupied by a single submarine. These are the two Guardinian "stealth subs" Sneaky and Snoopy, which were mentioned in a post last week. They're both trying to live up to their names, with the Sneaky sneaking around on the east coast of former Azan while the Snoopy is snooping around in the Auldoninnan-controlled waters on the west coast. These subs will be very hard to find, but perhaps not completely impossible...

Also, Guardinian Special Forces are on the ground in former Azan and in former Evil Evil Finland, attempting to find out first-hand what the heck is going on and who the "terrorists" really are.

The Guardinian Air Force is conducting air patrols and reconnaisance overflights covering most of the area shown on this map. The regular air patrols always take care not to overfly FCL/Auldoninnan/Hive forces directly or entering their declared exclusion zones, but what the stealthier spy aircraft do are a different story...

More to follow!

Edit: Hey, ooops... this was all OOC stuff, but I did not specifically say so at first.

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General Fonzerelli also does advise the Minister shoudl try to control his temper in public.

Audlonina does not repsond to threats.

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OOC: Guardian, pelase check your NS telegrams.

IC: Not a threat, General. An observation. It will happen no matter what we do; it is the way of history. Those like you inevitably fall; the only differences lie in the price the innocent must pay.

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Guardinian operations.

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=9019_GuardinianOperations.gif
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More details to follow in next post.

Note that Guardinian Naval Forces are actually inside the FCL/Auldoninnan patrol zone on two locations, each occupied by a single submarine. These are the two Guardinian "stealth subs" Sneaky and Snoopy, which were mentioned in a post last week. They're both trying to live up to their names, with the Sneaky sneaking around on the east coast of former Azan while the Snoopy is snooping around in the Auldoninnan-controlled waters on the west coast. These subs will be very hard to find, but perhaps not completely impossible...

Also, Guardinian Special Forces are on the ground in former Azan and in former Evil Evil Finland, attempting to find out first-hand what the heck is going on and who the "terrorists" really are.

The Guardinian Air Force is conducting air patrols and reconnaisance overflights covering most of the area shown on this map. The regular air patrols always take care not to overfly FCL/Auldoninnan/Hive forces directly or entering their declared exclusion zones, but what the stealthier spy aircraft do are a different story...

More to follow!


President Howard, welcomes the inspections by Guardinian forces , we jsut hope you wqatch your heads whilst the bombs drop.

If Guardinia can cotnrol the terrorists the Auldonina Ground forces wont be required...

We thank your nation for joining our assault on the terrosist camps.

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IC: Not a threat, General. An observation. It will happen no matter what we do; it is the way of history. Those like you inevitably fall; the only differences lie in the price the innocent must pay.


President Howard writes to the Minister.

It is with great concern that you class us as the aggressor in a situation where we are simply protecting the innocent lives of Auldoninna citizens. If your people had been attacked you would respond in similar fashion. We have no goals of staying in Azan permanently and as we speak many Auldonina troops are heading off the island and heading for some well deserved R & R.

We hope once we leave the region the new government of Azan continue to live in peace and maintain their land for freedom from terrorists

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Dear President Howard,

I do hope that you are not offended by my utter lack of sympathy for your nation on it's present course. If you wer eopen about what you were doing, I might be able to dredge up some scrap of respect for you, but as it is, you have joined with Hive and FCL forces in invading, occupying, and despoiling the neutral nation of Azan, on the flimsiest of pretexts, and you then have the nerve to complain when people fight back.

This is a fundamental lesson you have yet to learn: when you attack people, when you impoverish them and take awya their freedom, they do not passively submit. They resist. Regardless of who the resistance is directed against, there are only two ways to end it: ceasing oppression, or genocide. Your government appears to have taken the latter course, and for that, you shall stand condemned for as long as your nation is remembered.

Incidentally, you may be surprised to learn that we have, in fact, suffered terrorist attacks against our people, dometimes quite severe ones. Amazingly enough, our policy was not the complete depopulation of the areas the terrorists originated from, nor was it to bomb cities that they might or might not be hiding in. Instead, we compiled evidence, gathered intelligence, and arrested the people who did it. You would do well to take note, President Howard.

- Ricardo Micola,
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Dear President Howard,

I do hope that you are not offended by my utter lack of sympathy for your nation on it's present course. If you wer eopen about what you were doing, I might be able to dredge up some scrap of respect for you, but as it is, you have joined with Hive and FCL forces in invading, occupying, and despoiling the neutral nation of Azan, on the flimsiest of pretexts, and you then have the nerve to complain when people fight back.

This is a fundamental lesson you have yet to learn: when you attack people, when you impoverish them and take awya their freedom, they do not passively submit. They resist. Regardless of who the resistance is directed against, there are only two ways to end it: ceasing oppression, or genocide. Your government appears to have taken the latter course, and for that, you shall stand condemned for as long as your nation is remembered.

Incidentally, you may be surprised to learn that we have, in fact, suffered terrorist attacks against our people, dometimes quite severe ones. Amazingly enough, our policy was not the complete depopulation of the areas the terrorists originated from, nor was it to bomb cities that they might or might not be hiding in. Instead, we compiled evidence, gathered intelligence, and arrested the people who did it. You would do well to take note, President Howard.

- Ricardo Micola,
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My dear Minister.

As the terrorists were not located on our homeland, we could not arrest them as you say. We had to find them , which we did, and finding that they were wel larmed we fought them with al lwe had.

Also we have not joined forces with the Hive, we have only acknowledeged them as friendly due to their help of the FCL people. However, yes we have allyed with the FCL people as we feel their fight is a worthy fight. a fight to free theri own people.

We wont lower ourselve st oyour level of abuse, you may swear and curse to your hearts content, we are jsutified in wht we have done, and as we stated many times, the land we currently occupy will be returned to the Azan people. We wish no control over their remaining peoples.

President Howard

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Official statement by Guardinian Department of Foreign Affairs

Guardinia does not recognize the new borders of Azan as outlined by Auldoninna.
We support Jonchastan's proposal to turn control of Azan temporarily over to the Apolyton Court. However, in light of the continuing military buildup and extremely aggressive posturing by Auldoninnan military forces literally right on our doorsteps, Guardinia is compelled to respond by increasing the readiness of our own forces.

Today we announce that our Navy and Air Force are now being fully mobilized and that elements of the Army are also being placed on alert and deployed to forward bases. We maintain nonetheless that these are in fact restrained and measured responses by Guardinia. Every action we have taken so far has been defensive in nature. We have not been blocking, harrassing or threatening anyone, even with bombs and missiles exploding within few kilometers of our borders.

To this day, we have not seen any solid evidence that has convinced us of the "extreme nature" of these "terrorists" the Auldoninnan Forces are attacking. We are investigating matters on our own, but so far we have found very little information to back up the Auldoninnan claims. We are somewhat perplexed by Auldoninna's failure to provide hard evidence to support their claims, given that so many have questioned their motives.

Guardinian Special Forces are currently inside Evil Evil Finland investigating one of the areas Auldoninna claims to be a terrorist base. The bombardment unleashed upon this area by the Auldoninnans has driven several thousand new refugees across the border and into Guardinia. Given the present lack of evidence against them, all who reach the border shall be under Guardinian protection until further notice. Immigration authorities and Red Cross volunteers are helping the National Guard and the local police forces in handling all these refugees. Officials have interviewed several individuals as part of our investigation efforts.

We are quite concerned about the seemingly indiscriminate bombing of whole villages or even cities. Such actions are not justified under any circumstances.

We call for an immediate cease fire, pending an official investigation of these so-called terrorists by the Apolyton Court.


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Night time, on the outskirts of an "independent Azanian city" in south-eastern Azan

Several dark figures were moving quickly and quietly through the night, pausing periodically in concealed positions. Officially they were not supposed to be here, but they were, and they had a job to do. The Auldoninnans claimed that the area was now secure and that their forces had left the city. The dark figures were here to find out if that was true, and to uncover what had really happened here.


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Destroyer GNS Excalibur, in international waters east of Azan

"Are you sure, Captain?"
"You'd better believe I'm sure, son! Get those helos on their way now! That's an order!"
"Aye aye, sir!"

Minutes later, the Excalibur's two helicopters were racing out across the water, low and fast. They were heading west, and within less than 30 seconds they would be entering the area patroled by the FCL and Auldoninnan navies. Other Guardinian ships in the area were also launching their helos.

Another unidentified vessel had just almost made it into international waters before being hit and sunk by an Auldoninnan destroyer. The destroyer had immediately turned away and headed north after firing.

Now the Guardinians were sending helicopters in to look for survivors...

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Empires were built by dictators, not democracies.
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

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Guardinian operations.

OOC:
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...nOperations.gif
(Seems I haven't quite got the image insert thing sorted out, but it's there... )

since nobody seems to be drawing my territory on the map i'll just remind you that you have ships in my water, and i have juristication over that northern water between myself and FCL, so if they're still there when i next get time to read all these posts in detail and post something, some ships are going to be sunk

ps, yes im rubbish with the graphics thats why i haven't been messing the maps up :P

 
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