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since nobody seems to be drawing my territory on the map i'll just remind you that you have ships in my water, and i have juristication over that northern water between myself and FCL, so if they're still there when i next get time to read all these posts in detail and post something, some ships are going to be sunk

ps, yes im rubbish with the graphics thats why i haven't been messing the maps up :P


OOC: Ooops...

Well, the thing is... while you may have jurisdiction over these waters, completely blocking them and threatening to attack anyone who enters would be an act of aggression, not to mention a violation of various international treaties and perhaps a UN resolution or two...

While Guardinia will agree not to station naval forces in these waters, we insist that we have a legitimate right of passage through them.

However, in order to avoid further confrontation during this time of crisis, no further forces will be sent into these waters and the Guardinian naval forces that are currently in this area will move out.

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Well, the thing is... while you may have jurisdiction over these waters, completely blocking them and threatening to attack anyone who enters would be an act of aggression, not to mention a violation of various international treaties and perhaps a UN resolution or two...

While Guardinia will agree not to station naval forces in these waters, we insist that we have a legitimate right of passage through them.

However, in order to avoid further confrontation during this time of crisis, no further forces will be sent into these waters and the Guardinian naval forces that are currently in this area will move out.


UN resolutions, anyways since when can the UN force you to let other nations into your waters ? If you get Frankychans permission, then you can have scheduled times to pass through the joint controlled waters since traffics abit heavy in that area atm and as a result commanders are very protective of the merchant ships.

i pushed your ships to the sides into international waters btw

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UN resolutions, anyways since when can the UN force you to let other nations into your waters ?


Well, technically I guess they can't, but you seem to have thrown your net pretty wide when determining what's "your waters". I guess the Hive just might do that and I'm okay with role playing it, but in the real world, passages like the one between the Hive and Frankychanland would definitely have some sort of international sea lane where nobody would need to ask anyone's permission to run ships through. Anyone interfering with this would literally be accused of piracy, and the US or someone would be getting all pissy about it.

Usually, a sovereign state only actually controls the waters out to 12 nautical miles off its' coast. Beyond that, it's "free for all" unless you've consulted your neighbors and made other arrangements - which I suppose the Hive and Frankychan will say they did...

Guardinia is somewhat pissy about not being consulted since we feel that we too have an interest in those waters, but we're not going to make that much of a fuzz about it at the moment.

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If you get Frankychans permission, then you can have scheduled times to pass through the joint controlled waters since traffics abit heavy in that area atm and as a result commanders are very protective of the merchant ships.


We'll see what comes out of this...

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i pushed your ships to the sides into international waters btw


That's fine with me.

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Auldonina fully suports the blocking of that passage between FCL and the Hive. If international shipping wants to head west they can sail to the south of FCL/Azan.

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Jonchastan Broadcasting Co-operative

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In a joint statement made earlier today, the People's Republic of Jonchastan and the Grand Duchy of Basus announced the formation of the League of Armed Neutrality, in reaction to the escalation of tensions in Frankychanland and Former Azan.

Both nations pledged to stay out of the conflict and to defend each other's neutrality. They also pledged to increase medical and other emergency aid for the refugees and other displaced persons of the area. They also called on all the parties involved to withdraw from Azan and hand control over the territory to the Apolyton Court.

Central Committee Co-Chair Augustine Souza (RSP) announced Jonchastan's intention to establish an emergency field hospital in South East Azan, and urged the combatants in the territory allow this much needed humanitarian aid to go ahead unhindered.

In a written statement, the Autonomy Caucus of the RSP questioned the motives of the new alliance, noting that the "League of Armed Neutrality" is not a name that inspires thoughts of peace. According to Souza, the name is simply an indication that the alliance, while steadfast in its neutrality, will not be a passive one.

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In an official statement, Sung An-on, spokesperson for Noosland International Affairs Department, reaffirms support of Centralis and Guardina's position on Azan. "Foreign military operations in Azan territories must cease immediately, and the issue is to be turned over to the Apolyton Court."

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UN resolutions, anyways since when can the UN force you to let other nations into your waters ?


Intenational recognised territorial water is 12 miles wide. It seems that yours is a bit over the limit.

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OOC: The Former nation of Azan should be carved up 3 ways, FCL territory, Auldoninian territory, and Hive territory.

This way, the three of us get the "spoils-of-war" and piss everyone else off.

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Official statement of the Basus government

Basus has send the hospital vessels the "antonie van leeuwenhoek" and the "Freule van westerloo" to Frankychanland/Azan. Both vessels have two trauma helicopters on board. Escorted by a few other navel vessels this detachment of the Basus fleet will aid civilians in the region of crisis.

All action will be coordinated with jonchastan officials. All actions will be under a flag of neutrality only in the best intrest of wounded civilians.

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Auldonina fully support the hospital to be based in South eastern Azan and add that we have left plenty of medical asupplies for the locals to use at this facility. No Auldonina Military action is occuring in Azan and will not for the foreseable future, only action is of planes landing and taking off.

The military bombardment of the Eastern Territorys continues.

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Intenational recognised territorial water is 12 miles wide. It seems that yours is a bit over the limit.


Like i said i cant draw+my mouse is naff so i tried to steer clear of smudging onto the land and the dotted lines are not officially mine, im just being evil and laying claim to them for awhile.
Besides its not that bad, its smaller then auldoninias and hes only an occupying presence !

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This is Arnold Horshack reporting from Auldonina controlled Azan territory. Last night in a surprise raid, Frankychan land troops ambushed an Auldonina Patrol along the great river. 40 Servicemen and women were killed before Helicopters arrived to evacuate them and a patrol of armoured vehicles cleaned up the attacking Frankychan land troops.

President Howard is reported to be contacting Frankychan General as we speak to find out what has occured.

Apparently the Service men and women in Azan HQ under General Hogan are planning mass revenge. Presidnet Howard is urging restraint, but it will take a good explanation to save some form of retaliation.

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As the crisis continues on the far side of Apolyton O'ues, Karakas continues to hold itself out of the action, in contrast to its neighbor and traditional ally Centralis.

This, in turn, has fueled rumors on the streets and in the opinion pages of a rift between the two nations.

The establishment has been quick to dismiss such ideas, pointing to the recent joint upgrade of the K-47 Night Hunter fighter-bomber, and to the just-publicized Karakasian special forces intelligence operations in Thudoa.

For the moment, the rumors remain simply that.

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With no official repsonse to the attacks Auldonina military operations over mainland Apolyton has ceased and all military in Azan have been put on full defencive alert.

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Auldonina agents reveal secret plans of Frankychan land and the hives collusion to take over all of Azan. This is against the wishes of Auldonina. We wish to see a free governemnt in Azan and will assist them in running their first elections.

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ooc: Are these secret plans your invention, Ras? ...or does this reflect something that the Lazerus has said explicitly?? I suppose it could also be your agents spreading misinformation...

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OOC . no Franky stated it somewhere that he wanted hive franky and auldonina to split up azan.

that was stated after i had already posted my intent to leave the area one day.

so the hive must be aiding franky chan in their endevours of taking over azan.

IC: Auldonina have stationed troops in Azan territory to protrect the remaining populace from further attacks, any further attacks on Azan territory will be deemed to be an attack on Auldoninna.

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Auldonnina is to open up the Eastern waters of Azan to allow full humanitarian aid through. All nations should rush help to the free people of Azan.


We wish a coaliton formed to over see elections in Azan.

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Just under 400 members of the Jonchastani Militia landed in South-eastern Azan shortly after 2pm local time today, to assist with the establishment and defence of Jonchastan's recently announced humanitarian aid and relief programme for the war-torn region.

The Coordinating Congress of the Gaurd and Militia Councils announced that the light frigates Voice of the People and Fall of the Ancien Régime and the cruiser Jonchabad have moved to Azani waters to ensure that aid shipments to the new medical facility could continue unhindered. They were joined en route by several support ships from the Basus Navy.

There are unconfirmed reports the Auldoninan officials had been given a tour of the facility, but neither the Militia nor the Audonina embassy were available for comment.

In a prepared statement, the Central Committee reiterated its neutrality in the conflict, and insisted that the troops on the ground were merely, "a prudent, defensive measure, given the nature of the ongoing turmoil in Former Azan."

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The Foreign Aid Department of Ministry for International Affairs today began a full-scale relief operation into Azan. At present, no military forces have been deployed, but the Ministry for Defence has stated that any attacks upon Centralis personnel will lead to a military presence to defend them.

- Press Release from the Centralis Ministry for Information

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Here's my attempt at a map. It includes only the location of Jonchastan's emergency field hospital (red star) and the "administrative zones" announced by Audoninna.

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OOC: good work jon.

IC: Today, the Dominion of Noosland announces that illegal actions against the people of Azan will not be tolerated. Also, Noosland will join in international relief efforts. A convoy of transports has set sail for the "Free Azan area."

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ooc: Thanks! Now just convince my girlfriend that it was a worthwhile use of my time...

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The Karakasian government will send some of its grain surplus to Azan. The supplies will be airlifted from Pristina.

A small number of security personnel will accompany the airlift.

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Shipments of rice, grain, water and medicines have been sitting on the runway in Hannalia, plus ports througout Ceroo and, we believe, Guardinia, for a long time.
However, due to previous threats Cerooan vessels are remaining on standby for the time being. We would like to apologise to the Azani people for our caution, and assure them that as soon as their brutal oppressors have vacated the areas we will attempt to bring in aid.


//Intelligence is working on wheter or not these shipments are actually going to reach the Azani people, or whether the Auldoninnans are planning on taken them for themselces...//

In other news, due to the expense of keeping the fleet in operation so far from home, the INS Endeavour and the Cerooan 1st Fleet will be returning from their patrol duties near Ceroo de Wysteria to the Apolyton region. The Cerooan government would like to openly inform all paties that the fleets' course will take it through the Apolynesian isles on its' way back to Newport in Ceroo (It will, of course, respect the territorial waters of all nations). To any of the uncivilised, war-mongering nations in that region, you have now been made aware that the fleet will be passing through, and of its destination, we advise you to leave it be.

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"Chairman Lazerus, it appears that the Auldoninians are attempting to stake a claim of Azan as their own by claiming a moral high ground due to allowing relief efforts to reach certain parts of the region"

"They're accusing us of oppressive behaviour despite the fact they've sunk boatloads of people, bombed regions of civilians on the mainland claiming terrorism which no other nation has managed to confirm and yet they still manage to slander this regime which has not once launched an offensive military action ... hypocrites. Launch a verbal offense against the leadership of this nation questioning why it is accusing us of oppression when it is the nation with military undertaking offensive actions in the concerned area, while we have never undertaken anything more then to protect our ally"

"What other action do you wish to be taken?"

"Inform the Auldoninians that they have forfeited joint countrol of the waters around FCL, we will sink any ship sighted in that area. Give the word to the commander at Krakens nest for further action to be taken to protect General FrankyChan and inform the General we will be needing one of his airbases for a short while until one can be established."

"Yes Chairman"

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Large rumblings are heard through the night as the aid sent to General FrankyChan begin their mission, heading for FCL's southern border. Converted warehouses around the port of Krakens nest begin their task and radars bleep menacingly as forces take off from the Hive mainland heading south to their designated airbase and the carriers located around the shores.


ooc: I can't find any mention of where those ships are going to be on the maps, please post their route. If it's through my territory, assume they've been ordered to stay away from the port, keep all men below decks and missile systems offline and Hive military ships will keep their distance.

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A recorded tv message by Minister Lao Yung in response to Auldoninna actions

This message is the Hives response to the treacherous Auldininna government but is broadcast for all to hear.

You Prime Minister Howard accuse us of oppressive behaviour upon the Azanian people while you sink their ships, bomb their cities, kill and maim their civilians citing them as terorists yet providing no proof and other nations look on.
*screen behind the minister flashes into life

To you other nations who are set upon destroying the Hive and FCL nations, you are hypocrites ! you seek to destroy us while allowing bombs to be dropped on your doorstep while you do nothing.

Auldoninna landed military presence in the region concerned in bloodshed despite the affair being an internal matter of General FrankyChan.

Now you Prime minister Howard claim to be there purely to help the former Azani people to establish elections barely months after top officers in your own military were forced to resign due to your own election rigging and you passed a law granting you unequalled power.

It was not long ago that you reported a friendly fire incident upon the FCL forces and now you make public that FrankyChan forces attacked your own and that you retaliated by annhilating them. Hive intelligence confirms suspicions otherwise, as aerial photographs shown here :

indicate that the first attack was launched from the Auldoninna side 1minute before the FrankyChan forces which were merely enginnering personel responded in vain before being slaughtered. Speculation is rife and will soon be proven you fired upon these forces for stumbling upon mining operations on heavy uranium deposists in the area. You are a nation of lies and treachery who would turn brothers against each other for your own personal gain.

Our response to you now is this;
Any Auldoninna ships sighted around FrankyChanLand coast will be fired upon.
Any Auldoninna military sighted within FrankyChanLand will be destroyed by our forces moving towards the border.
You will cease the military buildup on the southern sector of Azan and withdraw all military personel within 6 months or repercussions will be felt.

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Basus national security advisor Peter van Schilgaarde has confirmed the departure of the aircraftcarrier 'De admiraliteit" escorted by two battlecruisers and several supportships. The aircraftcarrier will keep several flightroutes open and secure, for medical and civilian transports. Further it will back up Basus and Jonchastan forces and protect them against any military attack.

 
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