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Prince
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Map of Apolyton, Information and Rules

Click to view the latest update (16-05-2004)

Click the above link to view the map of Apolyton, originally created by Cold Wizard and enhanced and added to by myself.

Selecting a spot
Post below your choice from the numbered spots on the map. At the next update your nation will be added to the map- it is first-come-first-served, so if somebody has posted before you then they get the spot.
If you request an either/or spot eg. "I will take number 273 or number 452" the first number you give will be regarded as your choice, so other people can remain aware that any other numbers you specify are still open for selection.
Nations which have been in the region for more than ten days, but haven't chosen a spot, will be placed randomly using a random number generating PHP script on the day of the update.

A plain map containing the nation numbers and sea designations can be accessed by clicking here

Primary Nations, Puppets and Expanding your nation over multiple landmasses
Although you may pick whichever spots you like for each of your nations, it may keep the game more interesting if you do not cluster your main nation and other nations controlled by you.

It has become general consensus that a total of 3 landmasses will be granted per user (including puppets).
Any member with more than 2 puppets already placed on the map by the update on 25-04-2004 will retain those spots.

If you wish to claim an additional landmass for your primary nation or puppet then be advised one additional spot per additional 500M (0.5B) population.
i.e.
>1B 1 spot per nation max
1B>=1.5B 2 spots per nation max
1.5B< 3 spots per nation max

Although it is preferred for nations to take AVAILABLE spots, a new primary nation may 'bump' an OCCUPIED spot. (Just be careful whose territory who take over- some may send a few tanks over the border to reclaim what they think is theirs).

Moving your nation
Will be done if you've been placed randomly and don't like your spot. (Despite it's unrealisticness)

If I have incorrectly placed your nation (as I did with Basus) then please post and it will be rectified on the next update.

If you've chosen a spot then you're stuck with it until your nation dies.

Lost nations
Should a nation cease to exist, the spot will be cleared and thus become available for selection.

Reborn Nations
If an expired nation is reactivated then it may has a legitimate claim to a spot should it now be OCCUPIED by another nation or taken by somebody's secondary nation. If a primary nation now occupies the spot then it can be moved or split with the permission of the new occupant.

Modifying your nation
If you wish you may make minor ammendments to your nation and they will be incorporated into the main map.
Following modifications will be incorporated in updates:
* Modifying/Adding/Deleting Rivers (river deletion will not be allowed if said river passes through another nation, modyfied rivers must enter and leave the nation at the same point)
* Modifying/Adding/Deleting small islands along coastlines, or minor modifications to the coastline
* Add a capital city

The only modifications to borders will be to make a nation smaller, or split it into smaller nations (if feasible)

I would suggest taking using the base file (without the colours) to add your detail to:

Base Map, plus Nation Numbers

Colour Matching
If you are adding detail to your nation and want to ensure the colours you use are of the same pallet, view the following file:

Map Colour Info

Political Map Colours
All the colours used are very pretty, but if you don't like the colour your nation has been given, if it is feasible to change it (i.e. no bordering nations with the same colour) then I will.

Flags
Nearly all of the nations have their flag displayed on the map, the only omissions are those that were uploaded to nationstates incorrectly (incorrect file formats). If your flag is omitted or has changed place it a post below (in a suitable format .jpg or .gif are ideal) and it will be added.

Naming Seas
A nation may name a body of water with a designation (see base map, generally it is the larger bodies of water with designations) which it is adjacent to (one per nation) and that name will be added to the master map, again first-come-first-serve.
Smaller seas will not be shown on the main map (it is cluttered enough already!) but can be named and displayed as with the map of Ceroo below)

Objections / Petition for a change to the rules
I'm sure the majority of us are mature enough not to object to any placements or naming of landmarks. If any of the map rules seem unfair then with a majority consensus, I will change them (or if it's a hotly debated change then by poll result), because this map is afterall all of ours...
See also the OCC: The Rules thread, where debate about altering some map rules is occuring.

Updates
Updates will be done on Sundays every other week, if there is a lot to do it will be done weekly again.
Next Update: 30-05-2004

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You can select your position from this map, spots which have been taken can be viewed on the main map, or via the lists below. You are free to select any AVAILABLE spot, and for your primary nation you may also 'bump' an OCCUPIED spot.


Apolyton O'ues
The western arm of the main continent and the most populous area...

1 TAKEN - The United Good [Uncle Sparky]
2 TAKEN - The Arch Capitalist [Squebish Nef?]
3 OCCUPIED - The United Good
4 TAKEN - Iguana Fire [Dark Cloud]
5 TAKEN (RA) - Banellia
6 TAKEN - Wishet [Archaic]
7 TAKEN - North Spire [Archaic]
8 TAKEN - Fanaan [Archaic]
9 TAKE (RA) - ACE Organisation
10 TAKEN - Redfern [Red Jon]
11 TAKEN - Sirian Knights [Andemagne]
12 TAKEN - Grant Park [Uncle Sparky]
13 AVAILABLE - formerly The Mad Captain
14 AVAILABLE - formerly Greater Mongolia
15 AVAILABLE - foremely The Hegemonian Soviet
16 TAKEN (RA) - Navali
17 AVAILABLE - formerly Savoia
18 TAKEN - Renewed Ikixe [foolish icarus]
19 TAKEN (RA) - Cosmovonia
20 TAKEN - Admaria [AdamTG02]
21 AVAILABLE
22 TAKEN - The Hive [Lazerus]
23 TAKEN - NCC Pavesia [Pave]
24 AVAILABLE - formerly California
25 AVAILABLE - formerly Drunken Maraque
26 AVAILABLE - formerly Jackson
27 AVAILABLE - formerly Greater Chimerica
28 TAKEN (RA) - Spiffor [Spiffor]
29 TAKEN - Western Apolyton [Sally]
30 TAKEN - Frankychanland [Frankychan]
31 TAKEN - New Azan [azazel]
32 TAKEN - Guardinia [Guardian]

34 AVAILABLE - formerly Evil Evil Finland
35 TAKEN (RA) - Ss62 [Sava]
36 TAKEN (RA) - Dunlendor
37 TAKEN (RA) - Atlan Freestates
38 TAKEN - Karakas [Mr President]
39 OCCUPIED (Karakas)

117 TAKEN - 1337 Randomness [Randomness]
118 AVAILABLE - formerly Akiria
119 TAKEN (RA) - Marxist Chimerica
120 TAKEN - High Heavens [Lazerus]

141 AVAILABLE - formerly Wine
142 TAKEN (RA) - Krystalis [FlameFlash]
143 OCCUPIED (Noosland)
144 TAKEN - Centralis [General Tacticus]
145 TAKEN - Alecrast [Archaic]


Apolyton Sudic
The islands in the warm seas to the south of Apolyton O'ues...

33 TAKEN - San Antonio Bay [ceroomaster]

40 TAKEN - Noosland [Urgan Ranger]
41 AVAILABLE - formerly Ferrozoica
42 TAKEN - Lamendum [Ignorance]
43 AVAILABLE - formerly Peace Loving People
44 OCCUPIED (Flinxland)
45 TAKEN (RA) - Zinzibar [H0bbes]
46 TAKEN (RA) - The South East
47 AVAILABLE
48 TAKEN Capitalstan [General Tacticus]
49 OCCUPIED (Capitalstan)
50 TAKEN (RA) - Savalandia [Sava]
51 TAKEN (RA) - Njegos
52 AVAILABLE - formerly Burning Goat Corpses
53 AVAILABLE
54 TAKEN (RA) - Finchton
55 TAKEN (RA) - Fanchiland [AdmiralACF]
56 AVAILABLE - formerly Kyyen
57 TAKEN - Ceroo [ceroomaster]
58 AVAILABLE - formerly True Colony

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You can select your position from this map, spots which have been taken can be viewed on the main map, or via the lists below. You are free to select any AVAILABLE spot, and for your primary nation you may also 'bump' an OCCUPIED spot.

Apolyton Minor
A large landmass and several islands in the south-west...

59 TAKEN (RA) - Methamphetamine
60 AVAILABLE
61 AVAILABLE
62 AVAILABLE - formerly Sadlerica
63 TAKEN - Azure Dianoga [Ave'Tris]
64 AVAILABLE formerly Westgale
65 TAKEN (RA) - The Shiz
66 AVAILABLE - formerly Oral Fixiation
67 TAKEN (RA) - Great Kalador
68 AVAILABLE
69 AVAILABLE - formerly Marijuania
70 AVAILABLE - formerly Dissidents
71 TAKEN - Dakmoristan [Mr President]
72 AVAILABLE - formerly Silvera
73 TAKEN - Basus [Basus]
74 TAKEN - Flinxtopia [Flinx]
75 TAKEN - Storm Seekers [Urvan Ranger]
76 AVAILABLE - formerly Lower Arandia
77 AVAILABLE
78 TAKEN - Upper Arandia [General Tacticus]
79 TAKEN (RA) - Limeville
80 AVAILABLE
81 AVAILABLE

Apolynesia
Lots of small islands in the Apolytonian Ocean, kept warm by the ocean currents...

82 TAKEN - Jonchastan [Joncha]
83 AVAILABLE
84 AVAILABLE
85 AVAILABLE
86 TAKEN (RA) - Berit [Mercatore Uno]
87 TAKEN - H0bbes [H0bbes]
88 AVAILABLE
89 AVAILABLE
90 AVAILABLE
91 TAKEN (RA) - Kolabar
92 AVAILABLE
93 AVAILABLE formely Reverman
94 AVAILABLE
95 AVAILABLE - formerly Westport
96 AVAILABLE
97 TAKEN (RA) - Takoyaki [Archaic]
98 AVAILABLE
99 TAKEN - Alien Races [reismark]
100 AVAILABLE
101 TAKEN (RA) - Etatsnoitan [Etatsnoitan]
102 AVAILABLE
103 AVAILABLE
104 TAKEN (RA) - Neon Canada [123john321]
105 AVAILABLE
106 TAKEN (RA) - Athan [Athan]
107 OCCUPIED (Auldoninna)
108 TAKEN - North Texas [Slowwhand]
109 TAKEN - Auldoninna [Rasputin]
110 AVAILABLE
111 AVAILABLE
112 AVAILABLE
113 TAKEN - Emerald Cove [Paddy the Scot]
114 AVAILABLE
115 AVAILABLE
116 TAKEN - Pan Land [Slowwhand]

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You can select your position from this map, spots which have been taken can be viewed on the main map, or via the lists below. You are free to select any AVAILABLE spot, and for your primary nation you may also 'bump' an OCCUPIED spot.

Apolyton Nordi
The northern edge of Apolyton, bordering the icy waters of The Eternally Cold Sea...

121 TAKEN (RA) - Bokuta [General Tacticus]
122 AVAILABLE
123 TAKEN - The Sacred Baster [sacred baster]
124 AVAILABLE
125 AVAILABLE
126 AVAILABLE
127 AVAILABLE
128 AVAILABLE
129 AVAILABLE
130 TAKEN (RA) - Zomba-Khan
131 AVAILABLE
132 TAKEN (RA) - Kroekland
133 AVAILABLE
134 AVAILABLE
135 TAKEN (RA) - Matevia [Sava]
136 AVAILABLE
137 AVAILABLE
138 TAKEN (RA) - Beksme
139 AVAILABLE
140 AVAILABLE

146 AVAILABLE
147 AVAILABLE
148 AVAILABLE
149 TAKEN (RA) Grimlore - [nordd]
150 AVAILABLE
151 AVAILABLE
152 AVAILABLE formerly Draconious
153 TAKEN (RA) - Smith Valley
154 AVAILABLE formerly East Yorkshire
155 AVAILABLE
156 TAKEN - Ming Tran [xiaodave]
157 AVAILABLE
158 TAKEN (RA) - Thailos [Verto]
159 AVAILABLE
160 TAKEN (RA) - Eurocorp [Etatsnoitan]

Apolyton Ori
The lands to the south-east, bordering the great sandy expanse of Sanubia...

161 AVAILABLE
162 AVAILABLE
163 AVAILABLE
164 AVAILABLE
165 AVAILABLE
166 AVAILABLE
167 AVAILABLE
168 AVAILABLE
169 AVAILABLE
170 AVAILABLE
171 AVAILABLE
172 AVAILABLE
173 AVAILABLE
174 TAKEN - Karaistan [alms66]
175 AVAILABLE
176 AVAILABLE
177 AVAILABLE
178 TAKEN - Grumatopia [Swissy]
179 TAKEN - Al-Mastif [Squebish Nef?]
180 AVAILABLE
181 AVAILABLE
182 OCCUPIED (Grumatopia)
183 OCCUPIED (Grumatopia)
184 TAKEN - Flinxland [Flinx]
185 AVAILABLE
186 TAKEN - Flinxtopia [Flinx]
187 AVAILABLE
188 AVAILABLE
189 AVAILABLE
190 OCCUPIED (Al-Mastif)

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*A tag of sorts (for future expansion)

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Update A (18-04-2004)

Update B (25-04-2004)

Update C (02-05-2004)

Update D (09-05-2004)

Update E (16-05-2004)

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See attached for map of Ceroo

If other people want to do similar maps, or even a little more basic I will incorporate the detail in the main map.

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but of course we are not happy

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Pavesia was two seperate countries ?

I wonder which unlucky sod welcome neighbour is going to join me


120 seems appropriate for the High Heavens thanks


ps, what did you use to create the pic of your nation ?

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Beautiful job again, but...

Looks a bit empty now, doesn't it? I thought the idea of allowing nations to expand was accepted, with the caveat that if a new nation wants the land it must be forfeited. I think the same should apply to any secondary nations too, btw.

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quote:
Originally posted by joncha
Looks a bit empty now, doesn't it?

Put the link on NS so hopefully it'll get full pretty soon, plus the random assignment next weekend with help that...

quote:
Originally posted by joncha
I thought the idea of allowing nations to expand was accepted,

It's still being discussed, I waas against, the sort of reluctanly for it, or maybe it's I don't care that much? Dunno. Either way, UR was against, so I suggest seeing what the majority think- if it is to go ahead a reasonable max limit should be set aswell... If the reaction is apathetic then we can post a poll to settle once-and-for-all perhaps?

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but of course we are not happy


Assume that matches with Joncha's statement?

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i didnt realise UR ruled this world. ...

as i stated elsewhere, how do we role play interaction if we cant expand ????

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You sir have insulted the honour of my country, as a result you are off my christmas card list and i've left a fish in the embassy.

*blocks all further messages.

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damn whats that smell ????

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*whistles


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Ceroomaster is the man!!!!

Thanks for the kicka** map, man! I really appreciate it!

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my flag ...

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The Auldonina Fascist League has used the above flag from the start....

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Could you add the Joncha River and capital city Jonchabad to Jonchastan, as seen here, when you get the chance?

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thanks for the great map

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until my expansion onto the neighbouring isles is confirmed i have only updated my home island map... its a very small island and very crowded, i have added it here


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Renewed Ikixe would like to request #18 as its embassorial territory.

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My photoshop skillz are pretty wack compared to those of ceroomaster and others, and I forgot to use his color scheme. But here is a map of Karakas anyway.

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My photoshop skillz are pretty wack compared to those of ceroomaster and others, and I forgot to use his color scheme. But here is a map of Karakas anyway.


i will have to learn how to use photo shop and i guess downlaod it !!

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Thanks ceroomaster.

I am not against territorial expansion, I am against players starts out by grabbing large numbers of areas. It simply makes no sense that a small country (5 million) has control over such an enormous region while much bigger countries, ones with billions of people, get stuck in smaller areas.

Besides, where do you stop if an initial country can span many areas? What's stopping somebody claiming all of Apolyton?

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Naming Seas
A nation may name a body of water which it is adjacent to (one per nation) and that name will be added to the master map, again first-come-first-serve.
The sea at the very north of the map has been named The Eternally Cold Sea, in honour of CW's efforts with the original map.





I hence propose that the large sort-of-inland sea to the east of Karakas be named the Sea of Storms.

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ok i agree with Ur on this issue (makes a change )

No new nation should be able to grab multiple territories.

but larger nations with 1 bill should be allowed to expand of the small islands we started on back when we only had 5 million .,..

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Thanks ceroomaster.

I am not against territorial expansion, I am against players starts out by grabbing large numbers of areas. It simply makes no sense that a small country (5 million) has control over such an enormous region while much bigger countries, ones with billions of people, get stuck in smaller areas.

Besides, where do you stop if an initial country can span many areas? What's stopping somebody claiming all of Apolyton?


I believe I posted this before, but anyway: the fact that this would be an insanely self-destructive thing to do, since it would result in most of your 'territory' being uninhabited and ripe for conquest by an outside power or simple fragmentation.

 
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