26-05-2004 21:10									#61
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 From the Togas plan, Togas mentioned somewhere that two city sites could be up to 5spt at pop 2. Which two sites are those?

Those would be E and F.

Btw, I would also like us to prioritize getting roads and mines to those two new sites, as well as to PH.

--Togas

	27-05-2004 00:42									#62
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Togas E sound good, It on the "road to glory" thats leading to our friends in the east

	27-05-2004 00:54									#63
	Got spare money?

The only problem with Togas' plan is that it does not take corruption into account: Read this thread, and if you understand it and figure out how much waste there will be, you will understand that sites E and F need to be pop three before they are at 5 spt. During this time they could be building barracks, so that is not such a problem, but they need to have about 7 shields before corruption, so they will be stuck at size three for a while (they would need to work forests).

	27-05-2004 15:30									#64
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by Togas Those would be E and F. Btw, I would also like us to prioritize getting roads and mines to those two new sites, as well as to PH. --Togas

Those are on the second ring. Can any of the first ring cities get us any production? The corruption would be less as well, and we could get inner rings settled faster (ya I know Im being obvious here) as well.

And Im no corruption expert but I believe the order you settle in has something to do with it as well, or is that just a tie breaker for same distance cities?

In either case shouldn't we get the inner ring built first?

	27-05-2004 16:03									#65
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Those are on the second ring. Can any of the first ring cities get us any production? The corruption would be less as well, and we could get inner rings settled faster (ya I know Im being obvious here) as well.

We're settling from our little core near Apolyton. The 'rings' that were mentioned have a projected new palace (the blue dot) as their center.

We'd therefore better focus on good sites that can be settled fast, not on sites that are closer to the projected new core.

	27-05-2004 23:20									#66
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Unfortunately, the inner (plains) cities don't have the growth and production we'd like to see to get out units quickly.

We can get sites E and F up to pop 3 relatively quickly. Even considering corruption, they should be better production cities than the other sites.

--Togas

	27-05-2004 23:35									#67
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Looking at it, I have to agree E is the best site for now. But the corruption!

After this settler, we need to get some more workers so we can irrigate some plains and finish settling a closer-in ring around poly.

	27-05-2004 23:38									#68
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

EDIT: Nevermind

Last edited by Krill on 27-05-2004 at 23:45

	28-05-2004 21:27									#69
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Togas Unfortunately, the inner (plains) cities don't have the growth and production we'd like to see to get out units quickly. We can get sites E and F up to pop 3 relatively quickly. Even considering corruption, they should be better production cities than the other sites. --Togas

Good enough, lets go for sheilds

	08-06-2004 03:51									#70
	Suffering from ads?

Next site after F should be E or Ivory.

E = high production and growth site which will require little worker improvements.

Ivory = valuable resource and possible future palace location.

B, C, and D should be after that, perhaps in that order. Why? They all require worker improvements which we don't have built nor do we have the resources to allocate yet, and they are not in areas which we immediately need cities. I'd far prefer to build up the "front line" cities first so that they're strong and productive when we need them down the road.

--Togas

	08-06-2004 04:41									#71
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I dunno if I'm taking this out of context or not, but GodKing said in the current military thread that he had already decided on ivory as our next city site.

Of course, I also prefer the ivory site at this point. The lux will be most useful when the war comes around.

	08-06-2004 05:41									#72
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I'm ok with the Ivory site next, unless the team prefers site E, which I feel is equally important to our long-term objectives.

GK's opinion is just his opinion. Our ministers are advisors only.

--Togas