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Dual Imoen to a mage? (Time out:0 days after 06-05-2004, 16:45)
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I'm also one of those people who explore every single area and attempt to do every single quest.

some people only care about the main quest, and anything that is necessary to achieve the main quest (for example- you can't continue the main quest in Baldur's Gate 2 unless you get 15,000 gold- well there is another way...but you get my drift)

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Well in KOTOR and NWN I did the vast majority of the quests. If BG is like NWN in that there are loads of books with FR background in them lying around, I didn't read many of those though.

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Which is strange, because it was obviously planned from the beginning (if you look at the CD holder case, you'll notice that there is a VERY convenient pocket folder just for ONE other CD

personally, I thought that Durlag's Tower and the Wizard's Tower made the expansion worth it. Though the basement of Durlag's was one of the most tedious experiences I have ever had in a 'good' game

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Well I have restarted BGI with Tutu, and it's loads harder than the first one! I started two games, and died at the cut scene where you and Gorion are attacked. One of the assailants casts a spell that you have no chance of dodging or even attacking them beforehand and since my characters only had 1HP (low CON & ordinary rules) then that killed them. I learned from this, and put the rules on easy, got a Kensai with 2 longswords and 18-18-18-10-10-10 after a decent roll, and am at the Friendly Arms Inn. Well, I last saved on the edge of the screen before it, but it crashed when I tried to leave so I gave up for the day. I even loaded the Tutu tweak, and it promised that you could buy katanas from the start, but I wasn't able to.
Even when I picked up Xzar and Montaron we were attacked by 12 xvarts and my 5HP character bought it pretty soon in that fight. By my character does about 14 points of damage with a decent hit.

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It's supposed to stay at the same difficulty. Are you sure you just didn't get some bad rolls?

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Maybe it was just the way I wasn't too bothered about having a CON higher than 14. With an elf and a half-elf both getting just 1HP then I wasn't going anywhere with those games. It's a bit harsh given that BGI has you do a runner before any of the enemies can hit you. It's a cut scene! You shouldn't be able to die!
Also, some of the spelling on Tutu is pretty terrible, but never mind. That's exactly the sort of thing I'd pick up on. My destination has turned into the Friendly Arm Inn, so I have no idea what happened to all of the other arms. Maybe they were cut off by a kensai with 2 longswords.
I know I can't wear armour as a kensai, but can I wear wizard robes? That would be nice, at least to get the protective powers of the magical robes.

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Actually, with the extra specialisation and character types, I found it easier. Being able to duel-wield, with the extra 2* in it for a Ranger, made my character very powerful, even just using maces and warhammers, as he was to be dueled to a cleric near the begining of BGII. Still need to play on with him, as he's not got *that* far into BGII, IIRC.

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Well as I said, my character does 14 or so damage at level one, though he does have STR 18. He gets 5/2 attacks per turn too.
THACO's not all that at the moment, but when I start picking up the tasty magic weapons then things are going to go very nicely. I have to remember to turn Imoen into a mage much earlier this game. I'm not even sure that I'll need Khalid or Jaheira, but a cleric would be useful, even if she is a druid.

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Heh, a Kensai-->Mage can wear wizard robes for übercheese.

Ah yes, I should have said... in TuTu you'll always get the hardest random encounters, regardless of level. Stick with it, and once you hit level 3 or so you're pretty much on top of things.

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Is Limburger an übercheese?

An interesting point, but which level would you recommend dualling at? I was hoping for a whole string of weapon stars for 2 weapons, longsword and eventually katana too.

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Level 9 for the HP or level 13 for the extra half-attack.

But by the middle of BG2 a Kensai-Mage is SO powerful...

-Jam

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I still need to know about the cheese!

Should I give up on ever getting weapon mastery on katanas then? I don't know what the smithy in Beregost stocks with the Tutu & tweaks, but I know that there are a decent selection of longswords in the first game, and doubtless potential for more in BGII. I had a +3 and a couple of +2s in Chapter 5 in my previous game, so this could get a bit messy for those foolish enough to stand in my way! +=:muhahaha:

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Limberger is a fairly average cheese. Now Blue Shropshire on the other hand....

Don't think you'll find many good katanas in BG1 btw

-Jam

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No, none whatsoever I'd imagine. Fair enough if the tweakers can put katanas onto the shopkeepers' shelves, but to put extra treasure down, etc would be a bit much.
So I'll stick with 2 longswords for the moment.
I think that I have no chance of becoming a K/M with an INT of 10 though. Would a potion of genius work?
I'll end up finding myself in a similar position to that I do in NWN, where I'd love to be an Arcane Archer, but my INT isn't high enough to learn the required spells.

[edit]Aha! A fan of blue cheese. If it wasn't for the clear evidence in all your posts then I'd swear that you were a totally decent chap!

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I didn't know you could die in the cutscene!

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I think the 1 HP damage is supposed to add realism and make sure that you don't. I've never seen a character start with it before, so it's some bad luck. Somewhere between a 1 in 4 and a 1 in 12 chance, depending on class, and presuming no bonus to constitution.

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Two fighters though! Two games in a row. I was most annoyed. But I'm keeping the pantaloons this time round.

I was also thinking that my party could have made short work of the attackers so Gorion must have been a pretty crummy mage. I mean, if they were that hard, then he should have summoned some beasties to take care of them/create a diversion while he legged it.

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Well Gorion has an INT of 18...

... But a WIS of 3

* Jamski asks for some Stilton*

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We're all out of Stilton I'm afraid, but now is an excellent time to see where you stand on the matter of my favourite blue (green) cheese: Rocquefort.

Well I crashed when I moved to the Friendly Arms Inn in the previous game, and in the next two last night. What can I do to stop this or should I just go back to playing BGI out of the box?
It's a shame that it keeps crashing because I was really enjoying hacking all the gibberlings, wolves and xvarts to pieces!

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Sorry, but I'm not really a big TuTu expert *shrugs*

"Do you actually HAVE any cheese", he asked, expecting the answer "No".
"Yes sir, this is a cheese shop... erm well actually I was just wasting your time. Sorry about that."
"I'm afraid I'm going to have to shoot you."
"Very good, carry on sir."
BOOM
"What a senseless waste of human life."

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It is a senseless waste indeed.
I'll take Tutu off then, and go back to playing BGI from the beginning. I'm tempted to be a holier-than-thou paladin.
Jam, can you remind me what to do to get them to walk quicker.

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Run BGconfig or whatever its called, and move the slider from 30 up to whatever takes your fancy. Set it to 45 for 50% faster, 60 for twice as fast etc. The slider is called something like "AI actualisiations per second" but there's not a whole load of sliders to play with anyways

This makes the monsters walk quicker too, so be ready on that spacebar.

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I always am.

I had a "diabetic moment" at the weekend and bashed my left hand to a pulp on the dining table, but it can still press space in those imminent fight emergencies. I've now got one fat person's hand and one normal hand. Apologies to anyone who is in fact this fat.

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My spacebar is usually a little dodgy, due to uncontrollable anger moments whilst gaming. This can also lead to hands resembling Duke's.

Fortunately no real MP for the last few months means my current spacebar works fine.

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Well I have restarted BGI with Tutu, and it's loads harder than the first one! I started two games, and died at the cut scene where you and Gorion are attacked. One of the assailants casts a spell that you have no chance of dodging or even attacking them beforehand and since my characters only had 1HP (low CON & ordinary rules) then that killed them. I learned from this, and put the rules on easy, got a Kensai with 2 longswords and 18-18-18-10-10-10 after a decent roll, and am at the Friendly Arms Inn. Well, I last saved on the edge of the screen before it, but it crashed when I tried to leave so I gave up for the day. I even loaded the Tutu tweak, and it promised that you could buy katanas from the start, but I wasn't able to.
Even when I picked up Xzar and Montaron we were attacked by 12 xvarts and my 5HP character bought it pretty soon in that fight. By my character does about 14 points of damage with a decent hit.


how can you die there? you are unkillable there.

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Actually, with the extra specialisation and character types, I found it easier. Being able to duel-wield, with the extra 2* in it for a Ranger, made my character very powerful, even just using maces and warhammers, as he was to be dueled to a cleric near the begining of BGII. Still need to play on with him, as he's not got *that* far into BGII, IIRC.


i got kind of bored. I only got to the point of finishing Naskel mines, but I found it easier as well. You can get some really good kits. I was a Paladin. I had the good Paladin kit.

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We're all out of Stilton I'm afraid, but now is an excellent time to see where you stand on the matter of my favourite blue (green) cheese: Rocquefort.

Well I crashed when I moved to the Friendly Arms Inn in the previous game, and in the next two last night. What can I do to stop this or should I just go back to playing BGI out of the box?
It's a shame that it keeps crashing because I was really enjoying hacking all the gibberlings, wolves and xvarts to pieces!


It shouldn't be that buggy. I think it only crashed once or twice in the time I played. I didn't play that much. I just got to the point where I finished Naskel Mines.

Some systems are just more stable than others...

If it is crashing that much, you probably do want to go back to the old version. And I'd avoid using katanas in BG1. Long swords is a better choice.

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Well I downloaded the latest Tutu tweakpack, and it promised that katanas were available from early on in the game. I know that I won't get any magis swords with it in BGI, but that doesn't matter any more because I'm off to play the ordinary one again.
Maybe as a Paladin....

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I'm playing KOTOR now, and I must say that the BG games are a lot more tactical, hell kotor is just plain easy! I'm playing on normal settings of course, perhaps I should set it to hard

 
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