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Japher
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Ook! Ook! Ack! Ack! Ack!
Jun 2002
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Your entire movie opinion is now discredited and can never be used again! |
Yup, Ep. 1 I would give 3.5 stars, and Ep. 2 3...
Both Samurai and M&C get 3. So sue me.
I did have a problem with the women characters in Troy, I loved how undedicated they were to their actions. Helen was always easy to convince, like the scene when Hector caught her trying to leave, I even commented how "strong willed" these women were. Even Hector's wife was an idiot. O'Toole was good, and I thought Pitts acting was fine, not award winning, but enough to make me like him, and I felt bad when he and Hector died, and felt happy when Agammanon, or whatever, was killed... It was fun. Unlike M&C which got boring, what, 2 fights?! The only thing I like about it was the ending, it made me laugh. Samurai had much better artistic direction and acting, but I felt the fighting was bad...
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molly bloom
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Lundenwic
Oct 2001
time: 15:35
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I'm not familiar with greek women. But the one actress portrays a blonde female character.
Is blonde hair common in greece?
And Ebert was complaining about the fight scenes having too many soldiers. He didn't think that was realistic as that many people wouldn't be able to fit in the cities. I'm not sure what time frame this is supposed to be in. But many of those battle only involved thousands of people (less than 100,000). Some spartan battles only had forces of 5000 spartans. |
I doubt that true blond/blonde hair was common at the time of the supposed Trojan War, either among the Trojans or the Achaeans. There are several Greek websites that deal (or try to deal) with the idealized rosy pictured romanticized hulking blond Aryan warriors that are a legacy of 19th Century Romanticism and racist theories. The kind of idiot thinking that airbrushes out the male-male sex from Ancient Greek history too- like the university Don taching a Classics' class in the film of E.M. Forster's 'Maurice', who, when they get to a part of the Greek text dealing with homosexuality, says
'...omit the reference to the unspeakable vice of the Greeks' .
He wasn't referring to their tendency not to flavour their spinach with nutmeg, methinks.
Anyway, as has been pointed out, the film 'Troy' isn't a documentary or cinema verite- it's a film of an epic poem that itself was about events that didn't actually relate to the site that Schliemann called Troy, and in all probability didn't relate to any particular one Troy, but used 'Troy' in much the same way that Camelot is used in Arthurian legend.
As for verisimilitude in the battle scenes- well, Homer has gods playing a part in his battle scenes, and how realistic is that? More to the point, a modern audience that has seen 'Saving Private Ryan' or 'A Bridge Too Far' wants crowded battle scenes, not 400 Hoplites versus 1 000 Immortals or 600 cataphracts.
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18-05-2004 00:33
). I bought the collector's edition, I love this movie. 
Your entire movie opinion is now discredited and can never be used again!
. He was great in Rushmore and in his bit role in The Royal Tennenbaums.
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