28-05-2004 22:29									#61
	Increase Your PM Length

Alas, the innocent Ludd is thus corrupted by the foul and evil Skanky, who must be blamed.

yeah mine too

	28-05-2004 23:17									#62
	Tired of ads?

* Jamski condemns such behavior *

-Jam

	29-05-2004 00:35									#63
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

* Skanky Burns finds this thread ironic.

	29-05-2004 00:48									#64
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

We're the indie team behind Thief4.

	29-05-2004 02:53									#65
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

So is poly still slow for all of you since your bandwidth seems to strangely low?

	29-05-2004 03:34									#66
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I just got a copy from Best Buy. I'll report back on it tomorrow, if I'm sober by then.

	29-05-2004 03:40									#67
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower So is poly still slow for all of you since your bandwidth seems to strangely low?

The demo is rather large, 440 megabytes.

	29-05-2004 08:20									#68
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Speaking of the demo, http://forums.eidosgames.com/showth...&threadid=38619
Mirrors for the demo.

	29-05-2004 14:54									#69
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let's hope this game doesn't need any patches...

quote: Multiple sources tell us that all is not well at Deus Ex & Thief 3 developer ION Storm. Apparently some 20 - 25 people have been laid off at the Eidos owned Austin based developer. That's not all though as Warren Spector is said to be leaving the company as well. If we receive any more details we'll be sure to post them. Update: Other sites have confirmed with Eidos that people have been let go, though Eidos denies that Spector is going anywhere. Update 2: More details are coming in. It looks like people leaving/being laid off is just the start of it, as the company is also changing names..and going PS2 development only.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/32037

i also read the game doesn't run on win98 so you've been warned.

	29-05-2004 15:44									#70
	Tired of ads?

Yeah, the game doesn't run on 98. It have very high hardware requirements anyway, so people whos computer can handle the game are probably running XP anyway. Warren Spector left due to a "difference of opinion". I haven't heard anything about the other layoffs but hopefully the people axed were from the Deus "We can't program to save our lives" Ex team rather than the Thief team. PS2 only doesn't even make sense - Thief III wasn't even made for PS2.

	29-05-2004 15:55									#71
	Increase Your PM Length

Apparently one of our enterprising young thieves somehow managed to get himself stuck inside a chest. Taffer.

Attachment: stuckinchest.jpg
This has been downloaded 43 time(s).

	29-05-2004 16:12									#72
	Remove this text

* Jamski is running win98 *

* Jamski cancels his "order" quickly *

Dammit

-Jam

	29-05-2004 16:16									#73
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by Grey Mouser In the interests of providing useful information prior to the release of Thief: Deadly Shadows, here are the Official System Requirements: TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: WINDOWS 2000/XP (ADMIN RIGHTS REQUIRED)(95/98/ME/NT NOT SUPPORTED!) INTEL PENTIUM® IV 1.5GHZ (AMD ATHLON XP™ EQUIVALENT) 256MB SYSTEM MEMORY 100% DIRECTX 9 COMPATIBLE SOUND CARD 3GB FREE HARD DISC SPACE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD CD-ROM DRIVE REQUIRED EAX Advanced HD Supported - requires SoundBlaster Audigy range of soundcards. ****LAPTOPS ARE NOT SUPPORTED!**** SUPPORTED GRAPHICS CHIPSETS: ATI RADEON 8500 ATI RADEON 9 SERIES (9000,9200,9500,9600,9700,9800) NVIDIA GEFORCE 3TI SERIES NVIDIA GEFORCE 4TI SERIES NVIDIA GEFORCE FX SERIES NVIDIA GEFORCE 6 SERIES GRAPHICS CARD MUST SUPPORT PIXEL SHADER 1.1! UNSUPPORTED GRAPHICS CHIPSETS: NVIDIA GEFORCE 4MX (460, 440 & 420) NVIDIA GEFORCE 4 GO NVIDIA QUADRO FX GO NVIDIA GEFORCE NFORCE2 & NFORCE3 Note that although it is not specifically stated for the specs, the game will not run on any current on-board video chips, such as 'Intel Extreme Graphics' and whatnot. Just so you know.

	29-05-2004 16:53									#74
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Wow, that's an awfully lot of people out of the picture, not a very good move IMHO.

	29-05-2004 17:00									#75
	Put an end to popups!

Very poor move, I'd say. They could EASILY provide options for lower specs, especially with the graphics. Nearly every game has a whole range of graphics and sound options these days. *sigh*

No Thief III for me

This is the first game I see that won't run on '98.

-Jam

	29-05-2004 17:16									#76
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Jamski * Jamski is running win98 * * Jamski cancels his "order" quickly * Dammit -Jam

Why Why WHY would anyone with a modicum of computer skill be running win98? Why?

Better to update your OS than remove your 'order'!

	29-05-2004 17:18									#77
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Are you sure it won't run on win98? Just because it is unsupported does not neccisarily mean it is unusable.

	29-05-2004 17:22									#78
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I run win98 because I also run a lot of old games. I find its the best/most stable OS for my purposes anyway. My specs are at least twice* the minimum requirements for Thief 3, but since I'm running the "wrong" OS, they won't get my "money"

I can't play MoM, Colonisation, SMAC or the Gold Box games properly with XP - and that alone is my reason to stay with win98. Like I said, this is the first programm I've seen that won't work with my beautiful OS

My next box will have XP though, I'm sure of it.

-Jam

*Except I don't have 2 keyboards or two mice connected. That would be silly.

	29-05-2004 17:35									#79
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pretty sure it won't run at all from what i've read.

skanky - care to elaborate on what the difference of opinion was?

	29-05-2004 17:36									#80
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

The game might run in win98 though, so you shouldn't cancel your 'order' - they just don't guarantee it.

Plus most of those old games would probably run in Win2k, which I use. If I want to play a game that doesn't I have an old machine I can hook up in minutes.

	29-05-2004 17:38									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I can't play MoM, Colonisation, SMAC or the Gold Box games properly with XP

You can with an emulator like DosBox

	29-05-2004 18:15									#82
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showth...&threadid=38701
Any relation, Jam?
It doesn't seem like the game will even run. A few have mentioned that the demo wouldn't work on 98.

pg: They are going out of their way to avoid commenting on the situation.

	29-05-2004 18:26									#83
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

It's good. Scare the Sunday gamers with their aging P3's and old style Athlons away, so that the game can be played by, and focused upon, the gaming core.

	29-05-2004 18:28									#84
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Elitist.

	29-05-2004 18:43									#85
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Elitist.

Thanks.

	29-05-2004 19:11									#86
	Inflate your Upload Space

I'll have to get that crappy new OS one day then

Still, the crappy old one has served me well

And Doc - everyone knows that hardcore gamers run windows 3.1 Only FPS 1337 kids use newer OS's

-Jam

	29-05-2004 19:15									#87
	Suffering from ads?

You can use what you like. The fact that win98 is slower, less stable, and uses many of the nice things that your machine undoubtedly has very very badly indeed should of course not sway you.

	29-05-2004 19:32									#88
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Yeah, but installing XP will be such a pain... I always considered it... hell, I even have a legal copy downstairs I could install... but there's no way of "upgrading" '98 is there? I'd have to format and start over, and thats a PITA. Just backing up all my crap again... arrgh.

And then not being able to play SMAC, probably... *scared* - yes some people get it to work with the "XP patch" but others are screwed...

-Jam

	29-05-2004 19:42									#89
	Suffering from ads?

You can upgrade from 98. I think it even backs up most of the files in case you want to revert, and carries over as many of the settings as possible.

	29-05-2004 19:46									#90
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Really?

Tell me more... if I can just stick the CD in and press "upgrade from win98" that would be peachy.

-Jam