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The diplomat is offline The diplomat
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John Kerry is so compassionate Got spare money?

NOT!

How can we believe Kerry's claims that he will create new jobs as president when he can't even bother to vote to renew unemployment benefits?

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Kerry Absence Dooms Jobless Benefits Vote

Wednesday, May 12, 2004


WASHINGTON — A push by Senate Democrats to extend jobless benefits lost by a single vote yesterday - as their nominee-to-be, John Kerry (search), missed the vote while campaigning in Kentucky.
Kerry, the only senator to miss the vote, said he didn't come back to Washington because "we were told that no matter what would happen, [the Republicans] would change a vote in the Senate and they were not going to let it happen."

The bid to extend federal jobless benefits for an extra 13 weeks failed by 59-40, one short of the 60 votes needed because the cost would exceed last year's budget agreement.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (search), D-N.Y., said almost 130,000 New Yorkers exhausted their jobless benefits between December and April. Opponents note the jobless rate dropped to 5.6 percent and say the emergency aid isn't needed.

President Bush's campaign spokesman, Steve Schmidt, said, "Last month, John Kerry was pushing for the extension of unemployment benefits. Today, he had the chance to actually vote on that question, but was too busy playing politics when he would have made the difference in the Senate."
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119710,00.html

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Kerry hunts down homeless people, and eats them!

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One wonders how he plans on explaining that.

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I voted for it, before I decided not to vote at all for it.

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Kerry hunts down homeless people, and eats them!


well, I would not go that far. But Kerry's actions should be consistent with his words. He can't run around the country bashing Bush for losing jobs, talking about how much he cares about the poor and the jobless, and how he would give them jobs if he were president, and then screw them in the back when it comes time to actually helping them.

I guess Kerry is just a typical politician after all.

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One wonders how he plans on explaining that.


Just look in the article, he blames republicans naturally. He claims that his vote would have been meaningless because republicans were going to make the bill fail no matter what. Note that this is clearly not true, because if Kerry had voted for it, it would have gotten the 60 votes needed to pass.

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What moronic campaign handlers

Like he has a chance to win Kentucky! They could jhave made a photoop of him signing up....

Fire the campaign manager.

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Just look in the article, he blames republicans naturally. He claims that his vote would have been meaningless because republicans were going to make the bill fail no matter what. Note that this is clearly not true, because if Kerry had voted for it, it would have gotten the 60 votes needed to pass.


He'll simply say that it was a grand conspiracy of the GOP to cleverly manipulate the vote to be within one so that it has the appearance of deriliction of duty on his part. When in reality it was apparent that the GOP would shoot down the bill were he really there.



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And we all know that had this been a Republican politician being inconsistent, then I'm sure Republican Apolytoners would have jumped on this with the same spirit!!

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We've got months of this crap ahead of us, haven't we? God, I hate the US elections.

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Even if this is a diplo thread, this was monumentally stupid of Kerry.

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Laz: At least you don't have to live here through it .

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Naah, we leave that to the droves of lib-Polytubbies.

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quote:
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Naah, we leave that to the droves of lib-Polytubbies.


awesome, baby

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Those damned liberterians!

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lib = liberal or lib = liberterian??

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I know what he meant, but he was not clear. So:

I still say this was such a slam dunk for Kerry:
" I was the vote that got millions of American's the...".
Instead, now he just handed the republicans another thing to hit him with, and actually this time a valid one.

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And we all know that had this been a Republican politician being inconsistent, then I'm sure Republican Apolytoners would have jumped on this with the same spirit!!


I only wish more republicans had voted for the measure.

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I know what he meant, but he was not clear. So:

I still say this was such a slam dunk for Kerry:
" I was the vote that got millions of American's the...".
Instead, now he just handed the republicans another thing to hit him with, and actually this time a valid one.


Well, but will republicans be smart enough to use this?

Calling Karl Rove...

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He has to get this under control:

"Kerry on Globalization: Who to Believe, Flip or Flop?
Alan Tonelson
Wednesday, May 05, 2004

In its obsession with Massachusetts Senator John Kerry’s (admittedly Clintonian) position on whether he does or does not own an SUV, the national press corps typically missed a much bigger story: the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate’s apparent endorsement of the idea that the manufactured goods that Americans consume should be made in America.

In a late-April conference call to reporters, Kerry declared, “I want cars to be made in Michigan, made in America....” He also pledged “to keep car manufacturing jobs in the country” if elected.

Now it’s possible that Kerry would restrict this policy only to cars, but it's hardly clear why – especially since his campaign literature emphasizes that manufacturing as a whole is “critical to national defense,” “pays higher wages and is responsible for the majority of research and development,” and creates big employment and growth multipliers. Reaping these benefits obviously requires the United States to keep making a wide range of industrial goods.

Of course, such statements clash violently with Kerry’s subsequent declaration to The Wall Street Journal: “I’m not a protectionist. I never have been. I’m not about to be.” Champions of open trade policies must logically believe that the free worldwide flow of economic resources by definition produces the best possible outcome for the U.S. economy regardless of the effects on particular sectors of the economy.

So which of Kerry's contradictory positions should we believe? And is this the kind of question that should still be unanswered about someone who may be only six months from the presidency?


Sources: “Kerry Says His ‘Family’ Owns SUV, Not He,” Associated Press, April 22, 2004; “Report on Manufacturing Jobs: George Bush’s Manufacturing Crisis,” http://johnkerry.com/features/manufacturing; “Kerry Strives to Highlight Pro-Market Side,” by Jacob M. Schlesinger and John Harwood, The Wall Street Journal, May 3, 2004"

http://tradealert.us/View_art.asp?Prod_ID=1114

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Why? Most people in the country re protectionists at heart. Free trade is the love of the elites (even conservative elites here in Poly), not of joe on the street.

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So you are arguing that hes doing it to talk with people in a way that he hopes wins brownie points, instead of he just screwed up again. Thats even worse

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Not in politics it isn't. the educated voter should look at his record Too bad most voters don't count as educated ones.

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His wife is even more compassionate...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/pol...tner=ALTAVISTA1

"LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Teresa Heinz Kerry, responding to repeated calls that she disclose information about her private fortune, said Tuesday she earned more than $5 million last year and has paid about $750,000 toward income taxes, according to her husband's presidential campaign."

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I do wonder what the percentage is of educated voters as to indoctrinated voters.

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How can we believe Kerry's claims that he will create new jobs as president when he can't even bother to vote to renew unemployment benefits?




Wow, a Democrat did something with regards to the economy that I support!

Unemployment benefits are stupid - why should people who don't work get paid?

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it was probably a Senate vote that was part of a garbage bill...

if you looked hard enough, you could find Senator * voted to eat babies!



diplomat and his ilk can't find any legitimate issues to talk about, so they praddle on about dubious Senate votes.

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"LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Teresa Heinz Kerry, responding to repeated calls that she disclose information about her private fortune, said Tuesday she earned more than $5 million last year and has paid about $750,000 toward income taxes, according to her husband's presidential campaign."


So? Hell, good for her - she found a way to dodge a big chunk of what the government would usually tax her

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Unemployment benefits are stupid - why should people who don't work get paid?
Yes, and we should put to death the handicapped!

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So? Hell, good for her - she found a way to dodge a big chunk of what the government would usually tax her


She's probably going to vote for Bush because she would lose more of her money with her husband in power.

 
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