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DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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Lord God Putie-Poo is displeased with your lack of reverence, Comrade.

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Back to the subject at hand, did the people who were (illegally) disenfranchised in 2000 get their voting rights back? You know, the people who merely shared a birthday with or whose name resembled that of a convict?

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The Lord God Putin is indeed powerful and mighty, but he cannot even compare to the glorious three:

The Lenin, The Stalin, and The Mao.

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False Gods all. You shall bow before Lord God Putie-Poo.

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Hmmm... maybe it's time to start restricting all the spammers in this thread

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I don't understand... Ming is being very cryptic.

Well never mind, let's spam!

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Hmmm... I think we may have our first candidate

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Back to the subject at hand, did the people who were (illegally) disenfranchised in 2000 get their voting rights back? You know, the people who merely shared a birthday with or whose name resembled that of a convict?


Actually, I think they mostly just shared skin color with a convict. A black convict, that is.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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edited... because it be spam. So sayeth the almighty Ming

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The Florida Democratic Party stripped something like 50,000 to 500,000 soldiers of the right to vote for the Bush/Gore election because they felt soldiers were more inclined to vote Republican.


#1, get your numbers straight, it was 3,000.

#2, those votes were clearly illegal under Florida state laws. The reason they were illegal includes: dated after the election, opened, not signed by witnesses, envelopes not traceable to specific voters, etc.

#3, the Democrats dropped their challenge of these votes because they were afraid of being labeled as anti-military after Republicans began saying the Democrats were trying to deny the military of their vote (even though we don't know from where these ballots came).

Therefore

#4, the Republicans, through shaming the Democrats, were able to illegally stuff Florida's ballots ith 3,000 absentee ballots of questionable origin, includings many dated after the election.

These illegal ballots likely provided the margin of "victory" for Bush (among many other factors).

So, thanks for bringing up another way the Repugs broke the law in 2000 and are likely to do again in 2004.

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Anyone read the latest Rolling Stone? There's a good article about how its becoming more and more difficult for college students to vote. A lot of it is illegal by state laws including New York and Texas, but somehow the conservative town councils are able to prevent them from voting.

Its amazing to what lengths Repugs will illegally go to make the election "Fair and Balanced".

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Florida may be irrelevant, given that the owner of Diebold Systems, one of the biggest electronic voting companies, has personally promised to deliver Ohio for Bush. Since no one but the company is allowed to see the software, there's no way to keep him from doing so.

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Who's making the list of likely felons, and on what basis is the list ostensibly being made?

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In Florida in 2000, the Republican governor and the Republican Secretary of State contracted with some non-governmental company (nonpartisan I'm sure....).

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You want to solve the Florida voting problem? The answer is simple, have a test at registration that requires that voters have a minimum ability to recognize who they're voting for, what year it is, what country they're in, the names of a few of the people who are actually on the ballot, etc.

The Dems of course will never go for it. Why? Because too many of their supporters are illiterate peons who care nothing for this country except getting their handouts or brain-dead victims of aging who cant even figure out how to punch a hole in a card.

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Someone piss in your cornflakes this morning, Spencer?

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I wanted to elaborate, but Guynemer just puts it better...

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You want to solve the Florida voting problem? The answer is simple, have a test at registration that requires that voters have a minimum ability to recognize who they're voting for, what year it is, what country they're in, the names of a few of the people who are actually on the ballot, etc.


And how would this solve the problems of selectively purging the voter rolls of blacks on spurious grounds, or mysteriously counting thousands of opened ballots postmarked after the election, or the host of other illegalities involved in the 2004 election?

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The Dems of course will never go for it. Why? Because too many of their supporters are illiterate peons who care nothing for this country except getting their handouts or brain-dead victims of aging who cant even figure out how to punch a hole in a card.


0/10, especially considering what the stereotypical conservative American is

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Someone piss in your cornflakes this morning, Spencer?


It's no worse (and probably better) than what Agathon says about the Republicans.

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Well, I'm used to Agathon trolling. Spencer is usually a bit more measured in what he writes.

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That's what makes a better troll .

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True enough.

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Jeb Bush should be executed for treason

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Case in point.

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Sava is the boy who cried Bush. Or something like that.

-Arrian

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Yes... so Russia isn't the Homeland either? It is only the Motherland (Rodina)? Don't think so. Homeland isn't even a gender!

The US in terms of gendered terminology is the Motherland, and The Reagan approves.


In English nouns don't have genders. Motherland/Fatherland is used to translate foreign words for homeland and keep the gender. Most languages word for fatherland doesn't include "father" in it, it just happens to be a masculine noun. German is different, I guess because Land is neutral.

 
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