22-05-2004 23:48									#1
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I have not yet seen this movie, but I understood that it is a kind of apologia of a recent US President by a witty M.Moore.

	22-05-2004 23:54									#2
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Well, you can't say you're surprised.

Personally, Michael Moore is somewhat revolting to me. He's too much of a stereotypical american.

	22-05-2004 23:58									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Personally, Michael Moore is somewhat revolting to me. He's too much of a stereotypical american.

Fat, loud, and annoying?

	23-05-2004 00:06									#4
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Michael Moore - tells it like it is
Cannes - should reward the quality of the film, not its message

-Jam

	23-05-2004 00:06									#5
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Have you actually seen the movie before criticizing it?

	23-05-2004 00:09									#6
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I'm sure its very worthy. But I'm also sure I don't need to see it to know that it is far from the standard expected of a Palme d'Or winner.

-Jam

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I have not seen it - but I have read something about it.

Is SEEMS like it has deserved that price - it hits its target. On the other hand, the US just invite themself now-a-days.

	23-05-2004 00:11									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski But I'm also sure I don't need to see it to know that it is far from the standard expected of a Palme d'Or winner.

He got a sympathy vote for the row he was having with Disney.

	23-05-2004 00:48									#9
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quote: He got a sympathy vote for the row he was having with Disney.

Yep. Sad isn't it.

-Jam

	23-05-2004 00:52									#10
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"Palme D'Or" sounds like the Swedish police would spend 20 years trying to decide whether it should or should not be awarded to Christer Petterson.

	23-05-2004 01:35									#11
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Good show. French support of Bush criticism will definitely increase his reelection chances.

	23-05-2004 01:36									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Fat, loud, and annoying?

Well, yes, at least, that's what the european stereotype of an american is.

	23-05-2004 01:40									#13
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Childish games... then again, I never have really cared about the Golden Palmtree award.

	23-05-2004 02:02									#14
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Damn it...the title should be "Michael Moore wins top Cannes prize"...I didn't even notice this thread and I had to go searched to find it after I found the news.

No one's gonna read this and I bet there will be at least one copycat thread

	23-05-2004 02:07									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Well, yes, at least, that's what the european stereotype of an american is.

It's the Canadian stereotype of an american, too.

It's also the truth.

	23-05-2004 02:47									#16
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Canadians and their Napoleon complex... sad, really.

I'm pretty sure that it's NOT worthy of the Palme d'or, especially considering that his films have gradually been declining in quality ever since the fantastic "Roger & Me".

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd It's the Canadian stereotype of an american, too. It's also the truth.

Always have to throw in the Canadian point of view, because everyone is so interested.

	23-05-2004 03:07									#18
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I love the comment from Danish Lars von Trier after winning last year's Palme d'or for "Dogville" (starring Nicole Kidman, recorded in Sweden).

Q: How can you make a critical film about America when you haven't even been there yourself?
A: The makers of "Casablanca" never went to Africa, did they?

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	23-05-2004 03:09									#19
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Then again, it wasn't a critical film of Africa, so the point is moot.

	23-05-2004 03:12									#20
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But is was about Africa, so you would expect the makers to know something about Africa

	23-05-2004 03:23									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I'm sure its very worthy. But I'm also sure I don't need to see it to know that it is far from the standard expected of a Palme d'Or winner. -Jam

Jam--

I heard a LA Times critic on the radio, who was at Cannes. According to him, it is Moore's best film to date simply from an artistic standpoint, whatever one thinks of his politics.

Also of note, a plurality of the Cannes jury are American.

	23-05-2004 03:45									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie But is was about Africa, so you would expect the makers to know something about Africa

It wasn't really about Africa.

	23-05-2004 03:48									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie But is was about Africa, so you would expect the makers to know something about Africa

It wasn't about Africa at all. It was about World War 2 on the surface and the core of the movie is about love and what we must do for it - the sacrifices we must make. The film was SET in africa.

So, if I set a film on Mars in the year 2039 that means I have to visit Mars, 2039??? Ridiculous.

	23-05-2004 03:56									#24
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 So, if I set a film on Mars in the year 2039 that means I have to visit Mars, 2039??? Ridiculous.

Well, his point is that you wouldn't have to, actually.

	23-05-2004 03:59									#25
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Exactly

von Trier's point was that most of his media feed is from America, so he knows more about America than any other country in the world, even more than those he actually visited himself.

	23-05-2004 04:01									#26
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So anyone know if there's some way I could see this movie?

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quote: Good show. French support of Bush criticism will definitely increase his reelection chances.

The jury was headed by Quentin Tarantino.

-Jam

	23-05-2004 04:04									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Yep. Sad isn't it.

Not really. Why do you think he started the row in the first place?

	23-05-2004 04:04									#29
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Can't find it on P2P yet. Perhaps it will be downloadable from michaelmoore.com?

	23-05-2004 04:04									#30
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quote: Personally, Michael Moore is somewhat revolting to me. He's too much of a stereotypical american.

quote: Fat, loud, and annoying?

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