25-05-2004 19:03									#31
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VOTE DUMBASS!

	25-05-2004 19:10									#32
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What difference does it make if voting amounts to tossing a coin?

	25-05-2004 19:13									#33
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Meh. Then vote for some small, possibly loony, party. It's not much, but it's something.

Vote, damn you!

-Arrian

	25-05-2004 19:17									#34
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I've got 3 choices:

Conservative, Liberal, NDP(Socialist).

I would never vote NDP, and I hate the Liberals but Paul Martin is better than the others, and I like the Conservatives but Stephen Harper is a religious righter.

	25-05-2004 19:21									#35
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There is literally no other choice? I mean, a really fringe party with zero chance?

Failing that, hold your nose and vote Lib or Conservative, whichever is more palatable to you.

-Arrian

	25-05-2004 19:51									#36
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There's lot of fringe parties in Canada. The best was probably the Natural Law Party, but they seem to have hung up the gloves. They had something about "yogic flyng" in their platform. The Marijuana Party is still going strong. Apparently, we have two communist parties (aside from the NDP).

	25-05-2004 19:52									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Vote, damn you!

1776, Stone and Edwards.

	25-05-2004 19:53									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki There's lot of fringe parties in Canada. The best was probably the Natural Law Party, but they seem to have hung up the gloves. They had something about "yogic flyng" in their platform. The Marijuana Party is still going strong. Apparently, we have two communist parties (aside from the NDP).

I don't know if I have any candidates from any of those in my district though.

	25-05-2004 20:02									#39
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Vote for BQ.

	25-05-2004 21:03									#40
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Vote for the legalize pot people or Canada's equivalent of the hunting and fishing party, Asher.

New Zealand politicians don't get accused of being too Australian because while Australia is a bit right of NZ there is no stark difference.

Martin is smart to use anti-Americanism this time (although it's really anti-Bushism). All he has to do is point to Harper and say, "this man would have our soldiers in Iraq". In almost any election other than Israel's association with Bush ranks about the same as being exposed as a paedophile.

	25-05-2004 21:41									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I don't know if I have any candidates from any of those in my district though.

You've definitely gotta have a Green candidate in there somewhere, though.

	25-05-2004 21:43									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki There's lot of fringe parties in Canada. The best was probably the Natural Law Party, but they seem to have hung up the gloves. They had something about "yogic flyng" in their platform. The Marijuana Party is still going strong. Apparently, we have two communist parties (aside from the NDP).

Registered Political Parties:

Bloc Québécois

Canadian Action Party (fringe)

Communist Party of Canada (fringe)

Conservative Party of Canada (fringe... HA!)

Green Party of Canada

Liberal Party of Canada

Marijuana Party (fringe?)

Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada (man, they probably HATE the Communist Party)

New Democratic Party

	25-05-2004 21:46									#43
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Asher, Greens are running candidates in every district. If you vote for them, they get $1.75 to spend in the next campaign.

I'm pretty sure you live in Richmond Hill. You'll get to choose between Nella Cotrupi (NDP), Tim Rudkins (Green), Bryon Wilfert (Liberals), and Peter Merrifield (Conservatives).

	25-05-2004 21:47									#44
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Asher, Greens are running candidates in every district. If you vote for them, they get $1.75 to spend in the next campaign. I'm pretty sure you live in Richmond Hill. You'll get to choose between Nella Cotrupi (NDP), Tim Rudkins (Green), Bryon Wilfert (Liberals), and Peter Merrifield (Conservatives).

My electoral district is Calgary-Nosehill. Elections.ca says we have no candidates.

And why would I vote for the Greens...

	25-05-2004 21:50									#45
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Candidates for me are:

Larson, Richard Green Party of Canada
Haney, Ted Liberal Party of Canada
Dey, Vinay New Democratic Party
Ablonczy, Diane Conservative Party of Canada (Incumbant)

	25-05-2004 21:52									#46
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The Green party candidate looks promising.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/elec.../48005_GRN.html


His email is thefabulousmrx@hotmail.com


The Liberal candidate boasts a very intense background: he has a degree in agriculture:

	25-05-2004 22:06									#47
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Has anyone actually gone to the www.stephenharpersaid.ca site thats been advertized on TV?

I like Martin, but that site actually made me like Harper more. He makes some good points, like having an elected senate, and making the country less Ottawa/Toronto-centric.

Edit: And the anti-Americanism is lame, you can be Canadian without being a Liberal.

	25-05-2004 22:36									#48
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quote: Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada (man, they probably HATE the Communist Party)

Yep.

The lone communist professor in our philosophy department always stands as the Communist Candidate for Toronto Centre. He gets mad if anyone dares suggest that they are the same as the ML's.

He always gets a fair few votes from the University - mostly from students as he is a very popular man among the philosophy grads (not for his politics, he's just a nice guy - although he is reputed to have never thrown away a pair of shoes). He got 121 last time, beating the ML candidate by five votes.

PS. Does anyone think that the Green candidate looks a bit like Asher sporting a liberal beard.

	25-05-2004 22:40									#49
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Just curious: Can you vote in Canada, Agathon?

	25-05-2004 22:47									#50
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Nope. I wouldn't bother anyway (unless it was to give Danny Goldstick [the Commie I mentioned] a sympathy vote) as the electorate I live in is not contested (solidly Liberal). I did have the pleasure in 2000 of making the Liberal Candidate explain to me on my doorstep the entire Liberal platform before informing her that I could not vote.

I have only voted seriously in New Zealand since proportional representation was introduced (I vote for the Greens - like Caligastia does). That's because I used to live in an uncontested electorate there when we had first past the post (our MP was a notorious conservative drunkard - one of his sons was a sometime boozing companion of mine).

I'm guessing this is your first go. Wait till you go to the polls and see the retards that democracy lets vote - you'll lose all faith in it.

	25-05-2004 22:48									#51
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Funny though - if you have lived in NZ for three months before the date of the election you can vote, citizen or not.

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I've voted in provincial elections before, and munincipal, but this is my first federal.

I already know that voters are retards, that's why the liberals are incumbants.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher I've voted in provincial elections before, and munincipal, but this is my first federal. I already know that voters are retards, that's why the liberals are incumbants.

Same goes for the conservatives. Big parties meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

I voted for this dude - surely the finest man to grace the NZ Parliament and world famous for skateboarding to work (he even made the cover of the Toronto Star):

	25-05-2004 23:01									#54
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Do you still vote in the NZ elections, Aggie?

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I voted for this dude - surely the finest man to grace the NZ Parliament and world famous for skateboarding to work (he even made the cover of the Toronto Star):

Wow.

	25-05-2004 23:08									#56
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I voted in the last one as I was back in NZ at the time helping my mother nurse my father through his last illness. I even arranged a special vote for him as he said he'd be damned if he'd die under a National (Conservative) government - and he didn't.

I won't be eligible this time (if you have been out of the country for more than a year or so you aren't eligible). Not that I care much - the next election will be about race as the National Party has decided that its only hope of winning is to foment racial hatred, so no doubt the next election will be a tasteless affair.

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quote: Originally posted by St Leo quote: Originally posted by Agathon I voted for this dude - surely the finest man to grace the NZ Parliament and world famous for skateboarding to work (he even made the cover of the Toronto Star): Wow.

He's a cool guy who has some strange ideas, but has turned out to be a competent politician. He managed to push the government into enacting legislation to wipe the slate clean for people who had committed minor offences instead of having their youthful indiscretions hang over them for the rest of their (law abiding) lives.

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quote: Originally posted by cinch Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada (man, they probably HATE the Communist Party)

The MLs are Maoists (and cuckoo for cocoa-puffs). They're also big on Enver Hoxha for some reason.

The CP is your standard, old-line Stalinist party, although they're somewhat reformed of late. Last I checked, the leader of their "youth wing" was in his 40s, though.

	25-05-2004 23:48									#59
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* puts Joncha on "The List".

	26-05-2004 02:20									#60
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Well I am in Jack Layton's riding, he is a shoe in. This was his riding (well half) when he was a city councillor and our MPP (MLA) is NDP (in Ontario the federal and provincial ridings are the same).

I hope the Liberals get 140-150 seats. It will give them a stable minority government and they will not need to form a formal coalition with any of the other parties allowing them to work with the Conservatives or the NDP/Bloc on an issue by issue basis.