09-06-2004 20:06									#91
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I like Ike.

	09-06-2004 20:58									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten It made me respect Bush more. I'd be pissed if some media jackasses interrupted my round to get some sound-bites on the War on Terror, but he seemed to handle it with a smile and a sense of humor.

Well, it'd be a lot easier to get sound-bites from him while he was working if he didn't spend so much time on vacation.

	09-06-2004 21:00									#93
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The trailer proves that the movie completely lies and distorts facts. Moore's movie is a textbook example of how propaganda is done. With the right editing, taking things out of context, and careful omission of certain details, you can make anything seem to be whatever you want.

For example, the trailer leaves out the little fact that the Patriot Act requires a special warrant from a federal court. It neglects to point out that the planes wre grounded due to a legit threat and that the saudis that were allowed to leave were checked by the FBI and actually left AFTER commercial flights were restored.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui What was so wrong about the 'drive' quote? I simply don't get it? So what? He was giving a statement in the middle of playing golf. Whoop-de-doo!

It's a bad impression (and I think it's quite rightfully disturbing) to see someone happily playing a game while talking about waging war. Especialy to the point where he becomes dismissive of the war and shows more concern over his golf swing.

	09-06-2004 21:10									#95
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quote: It's a bad impression (and I think it's quite rightfully disturbing) to see someone happily playing a game while talking about waging war.

I'm sure he would rather have played his game without having to talk about the war.

	09-06-2004 21:13									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I'm sure he would rather have played his game without having to talk about the war.

It's too bad he didn't.

The secret service must be slacking if an entire crowd of interviewers can sneak up and ambush the president on a golf course.

	09-06-2004 21:15									#97
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Well, if he doesn't talk to the media, he gets skewered for not being open and available to the public. If he does talk to the media, he gets skewered for having the audacity to mention his golf game whilst in the middle of playing golf. Damned if you do and damned if you don't...

	09-06-2004 21:17									#98
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Maybe he should have more scheduled press conferences.

That don't take place on golf courses.

	09-06-2004 21:20									#99
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Doesn't the President's office have a press conference every day? How many more do you want?

	09-06-2004 21:20									#100
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So your criticism boils down to where he holds his press conferences?

	09-06-2004 21:21									#101
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Like father like son....sticking his silver foot in his mouth

	09-06-2004 21:21									#102
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous Well, it'd be a lot easier to get sound-bites from him while he was working if he didn't spend so much time on vacation.

As if his ranch isn't fully equipped with all the necessities to run the country.

	09-06-2004 21:25									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich So your criticism boils down to where he holds his press conferences?

I don't care where he holds his press conferences. If he likes to talk about his wars while playing games, that's fine by me. It shows his true colours.


Infact, I'd rather he did it more.

	10-06-2004 02:44									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten It made me respect Bush more. I'd be pissed if some media jackasses interrupted my round to get some sound-bites on the War on Terror,

Then why'd he let them follow his game? You seem to be under the misapprehension that the Prez was somehow jumped by the press, rather than invited to his golf game. It was nothing more than a photo op.

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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat It neglects to point out that the planes wre grounded due to a legit threat and that the saudis that were allowed to leave were checked by the FBI and actually left AFTER commercial flights were restored.

They weren't checked and they left three days after 9/11, which was before commercial flights were restored.

	10-06-2004 02:48									#106
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Then why'd he let them follow his game? You seem to be under the misapprehension that the Prez was somehow jumped by the press, rather than invited to his golf game. It was nothing more than a photo op.

Then why present it as if a question asked in the middle of a golf outing is tantamount to a foreign policy decision made in the WH?

	10-06-2004 02:57									#107
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I find the golf clip especially relevant to the monumental failure Bush is because in August of 2001, leading up to 9-11, he was taking the second longest presidential vacation in history at Crawford. He was sleeping on the job, so to speak. And we got attacked.

It also goes to the fact that he probably doesn't take anything (including terrorism) seriously. He's a drunken frat boy. And America deserves a real leader, not some dumb schmuck.

	10-06-2004 03:01									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Verto As if his ranch isn't fully equipped with all the necessities to run the country.

So is Air Force One, but do you think he should spend his time flying around the country away from his cabinet, lawmakers, ambassadors, much of the press, etc etc etc, along with looking less like a President and more like a corrupt CEO.

irt the Press Conferences, Bush still has had far fewer press conferences than either Bush I or Clinton, and I believe Reagan and Carter as well. If he has time to vacation over half the year, he has time to talk to the public for an hour every once in a while.

	10-06-2004 03:04									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia jokes are sometimes truths put in a different light, which can make them funny.

so true

	10-06-2004 03:05									#110
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quote: As if his ranch isn't fully equipped with all the necessities to run the country.

George Tenet testified that he didn't brief the president during the entire month of August because, "He was in Crawford, I was in Washington."

Talk about incompentence.

	10-06-2004 03:14									#111
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He probably had someone else do it. You don't talk about confidential intelligence info over the phone.

	10-06-2004 03:19									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich He probably had someone else do it. You don't talk about confidential intelligence info over the phone.

Nobody was briefing the president in those matters. And 3,000 died because of Bush's (and others) incompetence.

	10-06-2004 03:19									#113
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You said Tenet wasn't briefing him.

	10-06-2004 03:20									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Sava George Tenet testified that he didn't brief the president during the entire month of August because, "He was in Crawford, I was in Washington." Talk about incompentence.

Like I said, away from his cabinet, lawmakers, etcetteda, etcetteda, etcetteda

I will see your and raise you a

	10-06-2004 03:23									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich You said Tenet wasn't briefing him.

Does it actually matter one iota to you? If someone showed that Georgie got no briefings in that area would it make any difference to your opinion?

	10-06-2004 03:26									#116
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Obviously. My point was that it matters not one iota whether it's Tenet or some flunky who briefs him, so long as he gets briefed.

	10-06-2004 03:28									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich Obviously. My point was that it matters not one iota whether it's Tenet or some flunky who briefs him, so long as he gets briefed.

Somehow, I think the Director of CIA can give a better briefing than some flunky.

I'm glad you have low standards when it comes to national security.

	10-06-2004 03:29									#118
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quote: Somehow, I think the Director of CIA can give a better briefing than some flunky.

Why? It could be delivered by the little speech thing on old Macs, and it wouldn't change the information content.

	10-06-2004 03:30									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich quote: Somehow, I think the Director of CIA can give a better briefing than some flunky. Why? It could be delivered by the little speech thing on old Macs, and it wouldn't change the information content.

	10-06-2004 03:31									#120
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What, do you think Tenet's powerpoints are just that much better, or something?