16-06-2004 13:12									#31
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Spikey, I've got NWN but I haven't played it yet, being still embroiled in BGI, but perhaps this will help.

In BGI there is an option to turn on group infravision, so that if only one of your party has innate infravision then everybody can benefit from it. Does this option appear in NWN too? In fact, I seem to recall your mentioning that your PC fighter was a human, and I don't know what race Dorna is, but elves and half-elves get infravision automatically.

	16-06-2004 14:16									#32
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I don't think that is in NWN. It's a different edition rules and different engine.

I don't think I can win this battle without some way to cast ultravision. Man I am regretting not taking some cleric levels for Dorna now.

	16-06-2004 14:54									#33
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* duke makes a mental note to choose a character with infravision when he gets round to playing NWN. I need the practice for the Dungeon of Apolyton!



Do you think that was a subtle enough hint to Jamski to complete the "refinements"?

	16-06-2004 21:52									#34
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I just won that battle. I had to use lame cheese-o-kill one or two baddies at a time then run out the portal tactics though.

	17-06-2004 05:13									#35
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MattH

quote: What card do you have DC? I had some serious issues with my R9000 (or was it the 9600?).

Just wondering, what were your exact problems with the game? Before I purchased a videocard- my mouse wouldn't show up in the game... it would 'flicker'... and the editor crashed every 2 minutes... so I upgraded- now the game's editor works fine, but the game itself crashes before I can load any modules (including the campaign)

	17-06-2004 07:58									#36
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okay I finished SOU with my Druid/Shifter.

A few battles gave me trouble. The dead wind and the wise wind. Those have always been the toughest battles of the game. The final battle is actually kind of easy.

	17-06-2004 07:59									#37
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike The J'Nah battle was one I meant, even with the dragon's weapon. In major battles like this I tend to be chugging health potions and healing the gnoll allies a lot if I want to win. Of course it's a double edged sword since you lose a round of attack, but better than being dead. When you used Xanos with your mage I suppose you made him a barbarian?

yep, barbarian.

As for J'nah. I also had the gnoll allies. I think I had call lightning at this point as well. I can't remember which form I used. Probably one of the wormlings.

	17-06-2004 08:00									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Brilliant timing with the thread Spike If anyone's wondered where I've been, I've been playing NWN online for 48 hours now (still no sleep) Its THAT good. Sorry to PBEM people who were waiting, GO orders etc... but this is worse than Evercrack. The actual interface allows for a wonderful RP experience. *sings* Sorry, I'm really high on this game... gotta get back to my server. Send me a PM or an e-mail if its urgent. BTW, the HotU campagin is good, but nothing compared to the fun to be had in world with real humans and a real human DM. No waiting for the freeze spell to wear off - your friends have dispelled it - or you can stand there making jokes "Hey guys, I'd love to, y'know move a bit sometimes..." Anyway... see ya later 'poly *waves* -Jam

sounds like a good world. Which one is it?

often times other people like to move too quickly for me. I like taking my time and exploring every area, and talking to every significant NPC.

	17-06-2004 08:01									#39
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Ah, NWN and NWN: SoU. I love that game.

Been a while sine I played through either campaign, though. I think I played through both twice before I moved on to the various mods available online and then eventually other games. I guess it might be worth going back at some point just for the hell of it.

Of course, what would be infinitely more cool is if we had an Apolyton multiplayer group for the main campaign or any of the mods.

	17-06-2004 08:01									#40
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Don't know if it's an urban myth, but someone reportedly died playing Diablo2 for many days without sleep. Get a few hours.

A Korean man did die playing Starcraft.

	17-06-2004 08:04									#41
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Fellow NWN players, I have a juicy problem to solve. I am trying to get the wind from the arcanist's tower in chapter 2 of SoU. I am in the room with the lich (who has the wind) and a bunch of shadow healers and mages. This battle should not be difficult, but there are a lot of mages, and they all try and cast darkness. I cannot find a counter to it with my party, which consists of a level 12 fighter and a level 12 rogue. Hence they beat on me whilst I can't see, since they all have the ability to see in magic dark. Most other classes could of course cast ultravision, or at least the PC could use a scroll. However the PC is a fighter and can't use scrolls. The rogue can but I can't get Dorna to use the ultravision scrolls. It appears you can't dispel darkness either, at least with the ring I have with dispel powers. So how can I win this "easy" battle with my characters?

this one you may try running around the back side of that square.

Taking them all on at once can be tough.

	17-06-2004 08:49									#42
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there's a thread in the bioware forums about putting the baby you can get in SOU into a machine in HOTU that will turn the baby into a device that can summon a drider . Sick. I love it.

although I'm not sure if it is confirmed. It could be a joke.

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	17-06-2004 09:47									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud MattH Just wondering, what were your exact problems with the game? Before I purchased a videocard- my mouse wouldn't show up in the game... it would 'flicker'... and the editor crashed every 2 minutes... so I upgraded- now the game's editor works fine, but the game itself crashes before I can load any modules (including the campaign)

Mine refused to load levels after the first.

	17-06-2004 09:49									#44
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Post that persistant world already (obligatory, demeaning simley that shows I'm joking even though everybody already knows that yet is still expected to be added to the end of posts: )

	17-06-2004 11:37									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident there's a thread in the bioware forums about putting the baby you can get in SOU into a machine in HOTU that will turn the baby into a device that can summon a drider . Sick. I love it. although I'm not sure if it is confirmed. It could be a joke.

One of the BioWare employees hinted to us that we should see what happens when you put the baby into the machine on their forum the day after the game came out (when I was active on the SoU forum). Given that it came from that source, it's entirely possible. I've never tested it, so I have no idea whether he was just kidding around with us.

	17-06-2004 11:39									#46
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As for NWN persistent worlds, my little brother (age 23, not THAT little) has become completely hooked on the Narfell Campaign.

	17-06-2004 14:36									#47
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Well I am now playing HotU. Hopefully a few of the NWN fans here will play along.

	17-06-2004 15:31									#48
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Ok then, I'll play along.

"Yes, DrSpike sure is playing HotU. He really really is playing it!"

	17-06-2004 15:37									#49
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Idiot.

	18-06-2004 00:12									#51
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I've never played NWN. Is it like Diablo II? What's the goal? Can you win the game, or you just play?

	18-06-2004 00:20									#52
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It's a 3rd person RPG with a detailed ruleset: specifically a direct copy of those found in one edition of Dungeons and Dragons (I forget which...). It has decent graphics and interesting, if highly scripted, gameplay. One of its highlights is the powerful editor and most players agree that fan created mods are much better than the strictly linear campaign that comes with the game. The supreme goal is to defeat the evil person and save the world (region?). Once you've won, the game is over but can be replayed with as many characters as you like.

Another important part is the multiplayer. It's like playing D&D, but over the net using characters. Just like the pen-and-paper game, you have a dungeon master who leads you on the quests (either the main in-game quest or a custom one) and can add is own dialouge, characters, etc. in real time. From what I hear, a free (there is no monthly fee to pay after you've bought the game) MMORPG experience can be had with persistant online worlds. I'm waiting a list of the good ones .

Man, I sure have way too much free time. That was 2 paragraphs!

	18-06-2004 02:36									#53
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Hmm... MattH, what machine do you have in that case?

I have an Emachines T2080 with an AMD Chip and 512 MB memory

	18-06-2004 03:06									#54
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The problem is (AFAIK) fixed. My system is:
Athlon XP 2700+ (~2.17GHz)
A7N8X Deluxe motherboard
768 MB DDR2100
Radeon 9600 AIW 128MB
160G Samsung SP

	18-06-2004 03:13									#55
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hmm... a better system than mine...
how'd you fix your problem?

my graphic card is also 128 MB and computer is 2000+ GHZ. XP.

	18-06-2004 03:21									#56
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I don't have HotU... it just doesn't seem to be worth the $30 retail price, given the reviews. I *do* have SoU and have played through its main campaign twice, however.

Does anyone here REALLY have HotU and would care to talk about how good it is and whether it's worth the $30 retail?

	18-06-2004 03:36									#57
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As I remember it was a simple driver upgrade / patch. It was a common problem and mentioned in a forum search (bioware, that is) or in their Knowledge Base. I'll try and find it.

	18-06-2004 03:52									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos I don't have HotU... it just doesn't seem to be worth the $30 retail price, given the reviews. I *do* have SoU and have played through its main campaign twice, however. Does anyone here REALLY have HotU and would care to talk about how good it is and whether it's worth the $30 retail?

I'm enjoying it so far, though there are tonnes of traps and I have a fighter and a bard.

	18-06-2004 04:40									#59
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Well I am now playing HotU. Hopefully a few of the NWN fans here will play along.

I'll play along with my shifter.

	18-06-2004 04:42									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos I don't have HotU... it just doesn't seem to be worth the $30 retail price, given the reviews. I *do* have SoU and have played through its main campaign twice, however. Does anyone here REALLY have HotU and would care to talk about how good it is and whether it's worth the $30 retail?

CGW was positive. The only negative they gave was the bugs. Which in their case were severe enough to knock it down to a 3 1/2 star rating.

And I did have some bugs my first run through the game. Some of it may have been my system- which was below minimum specs. Most of the bugs involved the cut scenes.

But now I have a new computer- things run just fine.