29-06-2004 00:05									#181
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Maybe if the techs at higher levels cost extra money than they do now- that could slow things down a bit... or if we could add 1-3 new tech levels in to slow things down a bit- add a little more time for action.

although a 8-9 day game has pretty good timing... that's just about right, so perhaps nothing except the trade (and other mentioned things) need to be fixed as of now?

	29-06-2004 04:02									#182
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Well vovan, if you insist, I'll send my orders tomorrow afternoon, my time.

	29-06-2004 04:21									#183
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Ohhh, and I thought that I was the only one that hasn't sent in the orders yet.

Well, if we have to wait a day or more any way, might as well get this over with, and start a new game with fixed rules.

	30-06-2004 03:39									#184
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OK, I'm for starting another game. We'll declare Gameis the winner of this one, as he's reached a point where he's more powerful than everyone else combined.

Does someone else want to GM this time around?

	30-06-2004 04:31									#185
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I'll have to decline GMing, since I'll be gone the 7th-12, however, I will be glad to play

	30-06-2004 06:08									#186
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* Kuciwalker wants to play

	30-06-2004 06:15									#187
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I'll GM, but you will have to show me how to make the chart... and you will have to give me the pictures of wonders to put on the city graph.

	30-06-2004 06:56									#188
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... may have to be a bigger chart if skywalker's playing

	30-06-2004 07:03									#189
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* Skanky Burns joins the next round

	30-06-2004 07:05									#190
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How hard can it be to make a chart

	30-06-2004 07:07									#191
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Huh, lemme join the next round too before all spots are gone.

	30-06-2004 07:52									#192
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See, I just made a map that could be used for 8 players easily, from scratch.

Edit: Why don't IMG tags work?

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	30-06-2004 07:57									#193
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Well, lets try this.

I can change the colors if anyone objects, but I think that the blue is good for the borders of the map because it is like water, and the greens are like land.

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	30-06-2004 07:58									#194
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Is there a full, updated copy of the rules somewhere?

	30-06-2004 08:03									#195
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Smiley will probably post them in the Society III sign-up thread.

	30-06-2004 08:05									#196
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Are you going to start the signup thread Gamecube? or are you waiting for smiley to?

	30-06-2004 08:07									#197
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I'm waiting for smiley, he's not paying me enough to update the game rules.

	30-06-2004 08:13									#198
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To see how he made the chart, just quote his post. There is his code for you to do with as you please.

	30-06-2004 08:21									#199
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 I can change the colors if anyone objects

Yes please. I don't mind the general choice of colors - blue + green, but I do mind the tones you used a lot.

Also, the reason didn't choose those colors for land is because he used them for nation's territory colors. By using blue and green up, you are basically cutting the number of contrasting colors you can use for territories greatly.

	30-06-2004 08:28									#200
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don't forget to write

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(without the spaces)
when using the table however

	30-06-2004 08:33									#201
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Wow, thats alot of code. Smiley, could you setup the chart for me, putting in the players and their colors (looks like we are gonna have more this time around after all) I can edit all the stuff that changes after turns, but I'm not so sure how to put in more players, as I can't quite tell exactly (I can see the general area) where one player ends and another begins.

Ok, I'll change colors tommorrow.

	30-06-2004 08:48									#202
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Gamecube,

This should make it easier to make out which is which:

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	30-06-2004 17:10									#203
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I'll make a 12x12 chart, that ought to be big enough, and can be cropped if there are fewer people. Rules will be updated soon. Only point left to consider is the war formulas: Let's hear your suggestions.

	30-06-2004 17:50									#204
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I think that the wonders need to be worked on.

quote: 1. Tower of Babel- Generates gold per turn equal to the square of your tech level. 2. Colosseum- makes you immune to enemy attack. Expires with anyone reaching Tech Level 8. Clarification: If you attack someone, they get one counterattack. 3. Trojan Horse- you get a spy every turn before Tech 7, and one extra after 4. Acropolis- you have the option to change to Republic whenever, without a revolution. 5. Silk Road- allows trade with all players, regardless of distance. Caravan cost lowered to trading partner's tech level. 6. Jihad- you can take any city in a sneak attack 7. Mafia- One extra gold per city in the world 8. Trans-Siberian Railroad- Your new cities may be built anywhere. 9. National Rifle Association- gives a Republic the military support costs of a Monarchy 10. University of California- gives you any Tech Level known to at least 1 other player. 11. NASCAR- Give you bonus gold, equal to the square of the number of cities you own. 12. KGB- gives you 2 additional Spies per turn 13. Majestic-12 Program- your nuclear missiles are immune to intercept. 14. Star Wars- Your cities now require 4 nukes to destroy.

7. Mafia - this is a rubbish wonder, as the main purpose of the cities' existence is to make money, so one more per city per turn makes almost no difference at any time in the game.
10. University of California - (a) California hasn't even got a good university, so I don't know why this qualifies as a wonder of the world, but besides this, (b) you have to make it a tech that any other 2 nations have. This will prevent people building it and then never spending any money on any more research ever.
11. NASCAR - This will not be regularly built unless we have a huge map. It's better than 7, but given that nobody will be building tonnes of cities then it's hardly worthwhile either. A more fun wonder would be one that allowed the builder to obsolete another wonder of their choice at any time.

I'll play again if you haven't got enough already.

	30-06-2004 18:23									#205
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I'll play again, and I already made a suggestion for the war formula, but I'll give it some more thought.

	30-06-2004 19:29									#206
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New colors.

I had another set, but I figured it would be hard for colorblind people to use if we had any.

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	30-06-2004 23:24									#207
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I like the colors we have now, actually

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University of California= UCLA (I think... It's famous for its inventions) but Berkeley would have been a better choice, methinks
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What about if you add a "Great Library" wonder that auto gives you a tech that 2 other nations already have and make it earlier than the UCLA Wonder- that's too late in the game for it to be useful. Unless you add more techs.

"Adam Smith's Trading Co."- For every trade transaction in the world your civ gains 50% of the total profit.

UCLA Wonder- Tech advances cost 50% less for your civilization.

	30-06-2004 23:26									#208
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york (a) California hasn't even got a good university, so I don't know why this qualifies as a wonder of the world

Oh yeah, places like Standford, Caltech, and Berkley are just sucky little schools.

quote: Originally posted by duke o' york (b) you have to make it a tech that any other 2 nations have.

	30-06-2004 23:46									#209
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I wanna play in the next round too, if there's still room for me.

	30-06-2004 23:53									#210
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quote: Oh yeah, places like Standford, Caltech, and Berkley are just sucky little schools.

only Cambridge and Southhampton count as REAL schools