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duke o' york is offline duke o' york

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Oct 2001
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Has everyone submitted their orders?

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duke- we really should get this spy thing decided first.

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I don't care. I'm just waiting for oblivion (the gigantic butt of Spaced's empire) to descend upon the great cities of the Byzantine nation so I can go off to the hills and pursue my dreams of being a hermit.

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I've got everyone's orders except Ljube's.

As far as spies are concerned, splitting the production phase sounds like the best.

The production phase now consists of the following parts:
1. Scientific Research
2. Military Production (armies, nukes, etc)
3. City Building and Wonders.

Thos who have used spies can send in revised orders.

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Got it. Just need adjustments from Gamecube and Vovan on spy usage now.

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Orders are all in and about to be processed. Let's just say there are nukes involved.

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1800 AD
Turn #7


Espionage
Gamecube's spy sabotages Spaced Cowboy's production of cities and wonders.
Vovan's spy sabotages DarkCloud's military production.
Spaced Cowboy sabotages Vovan's military production.

World Trade

code:
------------------------------------- CUBIUM (7) --> SERBIA (6) 70 caravans +4410/+2940 SPACED (7) --> IGUANA (5) +70/+35 SPACED (7) --> CUBIUM (7) +98/+74 SPACED (7) --> SERBIA (6) +84/+42 SPACED (7) --> VOVAN (6) +84/+63 SERBIA (6) --> BYZAN. (6) 14 caravans +504/+504


Nuclear War I, shark in the fishbowl
With massive trade income, Gameis climbed the technology tree to its apex, discovering Industrialization, Representative Government, Mass Education, Nuclear Fission, Miniaturization, Space Flight, Lasers, and Fusion Power. (techs 8-15)

He then used his newfound nuclear knowhow to build sixteen nukes. Rounding out his production was a city and 219 armies.

Greater Vovania
Vovan built six cities and discovered Espionage. Enemey propaganda foiled his troop training program.

Darkcloud's last stand
Knowing he was doomed to fall to Vovan's war machine, DarkCloud surrendered his entire treasury to Gameis. Whle he also planned to cede all his cities, Iguana patriots refused to budge, and vowed to fight Vovan to the end, even without weapons.

Duke's War
With no money to spend, Duke's armies continued their rampage through the Spaced Dudes' ranches. However, as they were ready to attack, they saw a strange sight on the horizon.

Spaced joins the nuclear club
Although he was unable to build new cities, Spaced was able to research Industrialization, Representative Government, Mass Education, and Nuclear Fission, and also raised another 269 armies.

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Serbian backed Byzantine insurgency
Ljube's blockade runners delivered fourteen caravans of arms to Duke, who in turn supplied Ljube with looted contraband. Ljube also built four cities, discovered Espionage, and Industrialized. The Trans Serbian Railroad was built, and 672 armies were raised and massed for a sneak attack on the Spaced Dudes.

But would there be anything to attack?

Day one. Dude Ranch BBQ
Sixteen nukes rained down on 11 cities, blasting the Dude's homeland into oblivion. 325 of his armies were fried in the inferno. The other 200 were out fighting the Duke, and escaped destruction, for the time being.

With no more Spaced territory to invade, Gameis's armies simply sat back and watched the fireworks.

The Fall of the Iguana
Marveling at the sight of the new weapons of the industrial age, Vovan's soldiers no longer feared the Colosseum's gladiators. Fifty of his armies descended on DarkCloud's undefended lands.

((50 / 5) - (0 / 5)) * (7 / 5) = 14 cities

The troops easily captured all of Iguana Fire without any casualties. Spoils of war included the Colosseum and the Silk Road.

The Byzantine insurgency
With the Dude Ranches glowing a radioactive green, Duke had no chance to attack. Instead, his armies found themselves defending against a wave of 200 desparate Dude armies.

((200 / 6) - (66 / 5)) * (11 / 6) = 36 cities

Outnumbered and faced by vastly superior weapons, Duke's army stood little chance and despite a furious resistance, was utterly annihilated.

66/11 = 6

Six Dude armies were lost in the fighting to retake what little remained of the Dude homeland.

With the original targets WASTED, Ljube had no choice but to call of his surprise invasion on the Dudes. Ljube was quite disappointed, as it was not yet known if future attacks would even be possible now that he was separated from what was left of the Dude Republic by a nucular wasteland.

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Perhaps The Trans Serbian Railroad can help.

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I knew I should have gotten a cover for that red button...

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Maybe you need a representative government

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I just nuked like... 1/8 of the world .

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1800AD

code:
Society Cities Tech Government Army Nukes SDI Gold
Gamecube64 10 15 Monarchy 335 0 0 3400
Ljube 18 8 Despotism 604 0 0 3702
Spaced Cowboy (+5) 11 Republic 200 0 0 200
Vovan 10(+6) 7 Monarchy 45 0 0 593




Wonders of the World
The Tower of Babel in Pyramedes (Gameis)
The Colosseum of Igualica (Vovan)
The Trojan Horse of Vovan City (Vovan)
The Acropolis of Pony Town (Duke 'o York)
The Silk Road to Spherko (Vovan)


The Trans Serbian Railroad (Ljube)

Wars
Ljube <--> Spaced
Gameis <--> Spaced

Due to the increasing number of cities, they will no longer be listed.

The Vassal State of Iguana Fire
Prisoner DarkCloud

The Kingdom of Cubium
King Gameis

The Serbian Empire
Emperor Ljube

The Byzantine Underground
Fugitive Duke o' York

The Spaced Dudes Republic
President Spaced Cowboy

The Vovan Kingdom
King Vovan

New technology costs
#8 Industrialization- 16 gold
#9 Representative Government- 40
#10 Mass Education- 50
#11 Nuclear Fission- 60
#12 Miniaturization- 108
#13 Space Flight- 127
#14 The Laser- 144
#15 Fusion- 169


Now taking orders for 1900 AD (Turn 8)

I guess I should of gone with the half-cubic model (half the cube of the tech level) for technology costs.

Clarifications on Turn Sequence.

1a. Espionage: New spy is trained.
1b. Espionage: New spy can be used immediately.
Each spy can target the entire espionage phase
2a. Trade: Money in Treasury can be used for trade. Cost is based on the tech levels on the chart, not new research.
2b. Trade: Payout is collected. Bonuses for governments are factored in the payout. This money goes into Treasury and can be budgeted in this very production turn as part of your orders.
Each spy can target the entire trade phase
3a. Production: Scientific Research
3b. Production: Military (armies, nukes, SDI)
3c. Production: Civic. Wonders, then Cities. (you can build and make use of the Trans Siberian RR the turn it is built.)
3d. Conquered cities rehabilitated free of charge.
Each spy can only target one of the production phases
4a. Foreign Aid: You can give away anything, but not cities. There's too much potential for abuse there.
Each spy can target the entire foreign aid phase
5a. War: Wars are fought based on the sequence orders are recieved by the GM. If an army is unable to fight a war due to someone else beating them to the target, it will stay home and defend. (This is not Galactic Overlord where ships travel through hyperspace, here your troops are within your nation until they invade the enemy) The person initiating the war can decide whether to use armies or nukes first.
Each spy can target the entire war phase
6a. Tax Collection: City Income / Wonder Income. Government bonuses are applied at time of tax collection. A Republic generates 10 gold * cities * tech, for example.

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the map. Black squares are wasteland.

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I should have 672 armies.

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you tried to build more than you could afford. Trade is based on past turn's tech level and doesn't count newly researched tech.

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Orders sent... to bad Darkcloud, Duke.

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Each spy can target the entire trade phase
3a. Production: Scientific Research
3b. Production: Military (armies, nukes, SDI)
3c. Production: Civic. Wonders, then Cities. (you can build and make use of the Trans Siberian RR the turn it is built.)
3d. Conquered cities rehabilitated free of charge.

well, I'm glad this was finally clarified- although it was too late to help me
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Just wondering about the caravans- so we could send multiple caravans to the same player?
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I really do enjoy this game

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3d. Conquered cities rehabilitated free of charge.

But what does this mean exactly?

A spy sent can rehabilitate captured cities and you can earn tax income from them on the same turn that they are captured?

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Why can't I take wasteland squares?
I was hoping that the cities would still be around, like in Civ.
Who's the smart money on now?

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No you don't earn income on ones you've just captured, but you do earn income on those that you've captured the previous turn. I put that in there to show the relative sequence of it.

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Orders sent... to bad Darkcloud, Duke.


What did we do?

And I don't want your orders.

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Whoa, trade is way overdone. There should be a limit on how many caravans you can send. Perhaps limited by tech level. That was way to much income and brought the game to a head way too quick, IMO.

BTW no more orders from me. I cede all my money and cities to Ljube.

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Whoa, trade is way overdone. There should be a limit on how many caravans you can send. Perhaps limited by tech level

That's a good idea.

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Awww... but trading is fun heh...
Though majorly overpowered.

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Which limiter should we go with for the next game?
1) limit the number of caravans to tech level?
2) traed income can't be used the same turn.


Spaced, you can give away your cash but you can't give away cities... too much potential for abuse there.

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Orders in, I think.

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Okay, then give him my cash, armies, spies, etc. and wipe my cities off the map.

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I vote for this:
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1) limit the number of caravans to tech level?

 
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