17-06-2004 04:52									#31
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Five immediate improvements I can see:

1. Curved roads and tracks

2. Higher bridge spans

3. Single tile wide stations.

4. Stations on tracks and roads

4. Stations on trestles.

Very nice interchange possibilities...

One problem: Some of the roads dead end and double up. I hope this isn't because the AI hasn't improved.

	17-06-2004 05:12									#32
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quote: 1. Curved roads and tracks

transport tycoon deluxe allowed that, I think.

and right now this game looks pretty much exactly like that 6-7 year old title

	17-06-2004 05:17									#33
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud transport tycoon deluxe allowed that, I think.

I think they curved to right angles in one tile. I was pointing to the ability to have larger curves over a few tiles for that smooth look.

And yeah, the graphics look very similar, expecially the grading on slopes.

	12-08-2004 10:02									#34
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Locomotion will be release on Sept 7. Just 27 days.

	12-08-2004 16:02									#35
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Wow.

	18-08-2004 03:17									#36
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Bum. Three week to go.

	05-09-2004 08:36									#37
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Back to the top. The game ships Tue. 7 Sept.

	05-09-2004 14:16									#38
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And there is a playable demo available for download here or here.

	05-09-2004 14:35									#39
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Have you tried the demo yet? Is it any good?

	05-09-2004 14:41									#40
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I've only just finished dl'ing it myself, I'll let you know.

	05-09-2004 15:02									#41
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Weeell. Having played TT Deluxe, it was pretty familiar.

They've streamlined gameplay by removing the vehicle depots, you just place the vehicles on the road/track and they go on from there. Too short time in the demo (only one year) to find out how to replace stuff, or whether they need to be repaired.

The graphics are pretty much the same as before.

The demo was too short and in a too early period to see any considerable changes to TTD. There was one though: building roads and railways is now way, way more inconvenient. Instead of drawing a long line with the mouse, you have to lay down one block, and then go clickety-click in a screen to build more of it. It does allow for more slender curves (ehm) to be placed, you'll see what I mean, but those could have been put in without the expense of usability.

Altogether, I'm sticking to TTD. But again, the demo was really only showing what TTD can do too - apparently the major changes are in scale and you need full version to decide on that.

	06-09-2004 15:12									#42
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The clickety-click track laying works the same as building a rollercoaster track in RCT? Wasn't really clear from your post...

also, we want SCREENSHOTS!

	06-09-2004 16:13									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy The clickety-click track laying works the same as building a rollercoaster track in RCT? Wasn't really clear from your post...

Ah! Yes! That's what I was trying to say.

quote: also, we want SCREENSHOTS!

There's really not much to show there. (And I uninstalled it already )

	07-09-2004 02:34									#44
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The new game is using Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 Graphic for the ground texture. It is also using RCT 1 build methods and the game engine is RCT 1. The only year (1925) of the demo go quite fast and the bldg look like they came out of twentys.
I get the feeling that Chris or Atari is going after the young Childrens market. Ages 9 and up.

However the Trains in the demo look like the real train that they represent (Special 2-4-2 and a Balwin 2-8-0) and they are twice as big than in the original games. The bus is still small, but again there are only two buses to select from (WMC Bus and a Vulcan VSD Bus).

You can not build an Airport in the demo, not enough money. The two planes are DH-16 and a F.7.

There is a picture of a Boeing 707 and it look like a 707.

If you compare the graphics of this game and Transport Giant, TG kills this game.

I will still buy this game either tomorrow or Wed. Depends on who gets it first, EB or SW Etc., and later this week or next, I will have TG. Just hope TG will not be a waste of money.

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	07-09-2004 03:12									#45
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Played the demo. Really like it.


Keeps to the spirit of Transport Tycoon and adds the easiness and functionality of the RCT engine and design. It also has multiplayer.

The track building method may be annoying sometimes, but the added functionality it provides is well worth it. You'll get used to it, and you probably already are if you've played Roller Coaster Tycoon.

quote: The only year (1925) of the demo go quite fast and the bldg look like they came out of twentys.

That's not the only scenario in the demo. There's also a Britain 1955 one under a harder difficulty setting.

quote: You can not build an Airport in the demo, not enough money. The two planes are DH-16 and a F.7.

Did you try taking out a loan? I didn't bother personally, but just a thought.

quote: If you compare the graphics of this game and Transport Giant, TG kills this game.

Meh, they both have mediocore graphics. Locomotion, however, also has functional graphics.

quote: I will still buy this game either tomorrow or Wed. Depends on who gets it first, EB or SW Etc., and later this week or next, I will have TG. Just hope TG will not be a waste of money.

I'd skip on Transport Giant, personally.

	07-09-2004 09:36									#46
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Played the demo. Really like it. Keeps to the spirit of Transport Tycoon and adds the easiness and functionality of the RCT engine and design. It also has multiplayer. The track building method may be annoying sometimes, but the added functionality it provides is well worth it. You'll get used to it, and you probably already are if you've played Roller Coaster Tycoon. That's not the only scenario in the demo. There's also a Britain 1955 one under a harder difficulty setting. Did you try taking out a loan? I didn't bother personally, but just a thought. Meh, they both have mediocore graphics. Locomotion, however, also has functional graphics. I'd skip on Transport Giant, personally.

Yes I just try the Airport and you lose money big time. Wait for the game.

	07-09-2004 19:56									#47
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Screenshots

	07-09-2004 21:44									#48
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The game has been released... or at least it's supposed to... wasn't it today the game was set to arrive to stores?

	07-09-2004 22:59									#49
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I'm going to go check after work. I'll keep you posted

	08-09-2004 04:45									#50
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I just spent ... nay ... wasted the last hour going to Best Buy, to EBGames at the mall, and to Wallyworld (Walmart to those of you who don't know ) and not one of them had it. Of course, this being Reno, they're probably using the cop-out excuse *snivelling* "Well, it's harder for us to get shipments over the mountains." *snivelling*

Grrr...

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	08-09-2004 05:14									#51
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs I just spent ... nay ... wasting the last hour going to Best Buy, to EBGames at the mall, and to Wallyworld (Walmart to those of you who don't know ) and not one of them had it. Of course, this being Reno, they're probably using the cop-out excuse *snivelling* "Well, it's harder for us to get shipments over the mountains." *snivelling* Grrr...

I call EB at the Hilltop Mall in Richmond, Ca. and SW Etc at the Fairfield Mall in Fairfield, Ca., and both said tomorrow.

	08-09-2004 05:16									#52
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I'll have my copy in T minus 10 minutes and counting.

	08-09-2004 05:41									#53
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First impression: The autorun splash has techno music reminiscent of the kind you get in warez rip installers.

EDIT: Atleast, form what I've been told about such things.

EDIT again: Oh man, it's even got a "view release notes" button that points you to the readme.

	08-09-2004 08:33									#54
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Hmm... no one in the Baltimore area has it in stock yet...

	09-09-2004 03:55									#55
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Just checked the 3 stores again. Nada. EBGames had its coming soon folder out and I looked in it. Sept. 8th was listed.

Grrr...

	09-09-2004 05:19									#56
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I might take back what I said about the RCT style track building being worth it. You can't make the same kind of compact dual rail stations that you could in the original Transport Tycoon. But on the other hand, you can make intricate underground transit systems and build more sophysticated land bridges. (including all together raised tracks or roads which have turns and all)

It'll take soem more experimentation, I guess, before I can really say if I like the new more than the old.





There is a random map generator by the way, and it's pretty good -alot of variables to toy with. My only complaint is that it tends to drop terrain types down in blocky formations.

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	09-09-2004 05:26									#57
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SW Etc and EB both today said no. When talking with the sale people, I get the feeling that they and their Co. really don't care if they get the game. I don't think Atari is pushing this game.

	09-09-2004 09:01									#58
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Yeah, the guy at my local EB said he'd never heard of it, and didn't have it in the listings anywhere. Nor did GameStop. I guess this is what happens when you're a "budget" title...

	09-09-2004 09:54									#59
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX Yeah, the guy at my local EB said he'd never heard of it, and didn't have it in the listings anywhere. Nor did GameStop. I guess this is what happens when you're a "budget" title...

Tell him to look it up under C. Sawyer game. And that Chris is the maker of RCT.

	09-09-2004 11:20									#60
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That's how I found it today. The listing, not the game.