24-06-2004 05:12									#31
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quote: Does anyone know ( Hex... ) the huge bounuses that the AI gets on impossible? Its good to know what we are up against.

I dunno, makes it less interesting to know exactly how theyre doing. But Hex made a post here http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...754#post2940754

quote: CTP2 Cradle Very Hard Bonuses (default CTP2 Impossible) (version 1.30b, posted April 8, 2004) To start the game... - Starting Human Advances: 3 - Starting AI Advantages: 8 This works out to 2.66x1 starting advantage. Cradle's tech tree is approx. 2x the size of civ3's tree, making this gap less drastic. - Number of extra AI type (settlers): 1 - No additional bonus AI miliary units, although the AI does start out with 5000 Gold (this can translate into a potential 5 rushbought units) - 4000 PW (or 4 mines) Gold and Commerce - AI Unit Support Bonuses - Free Unit Upgrades - AI Gold Generator: 1.15 (player is 1.00) - Gold Bonus for each city: 1 per pop point (via SLIC) Note: CTP2's gold setup is (5x) of civ3's setup. (1 gold in civ3 translates into 5 gold in CTP2) - AI to AI trade rate: no AI Bonus - AI max government transition in turns: no AI Bonus Cost - AI Science Cost (player is 10): 6.5 - AI Food Cost (player is 10): 6.5 - AI Production Cost (player is 10): 7.5 - AI PW Advantage: +05-15% - Based on government type (via PW SLIC) - AI only sees what it has explored and also has the same FoW effect as the human

comparing civ3 AI bonuses to Cradle V.Hard. If you have a dig around the txt files its pretty easy to see the exact ones for impossible.

quote: Actually I'm more worried about the Barbarian threat than the other AI's. There will be a heck of alot of them on mauraders I suspect.

If we dont let them group it just means more slaves

	24-06-2004 08:13									#32
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Ok I played a bit, I am REAL rusty but the extent of my reign was to develop infrastructure.

5400 House of Savas comes to the Throne from Larissa's guard. Promising more public works and to connect the farflung empire to the East.

5360 The King Xerxes Savas pushes for the invetion of the wheel and maximizes public works (from 0 to 80)

5340 A new warrior is found in the Eastern hinterland of Greece. King Cyrus Savas, new to the throne, orders troops to explore and pull out from greece after threats from the belligerent neighbors.

5320 In Greece barbarians slay our slinger

5280 Cyrus succeeded by Xerxes II. A nomadic settler is slain north of Apolytonia.

5240 King Darius Savas victorious against barbarians outside Apolytonia. Troops discover gold in a village East of greece.

5200 Darius old a weary misleads army into an ambush in Eastern greece but a unruly tribe joins our forces.

5140 After sixty years of insignificant rule Darius II passes the throne to Alexandros who pushes ocean expansion and troops report a circumnavigation of our continent.

5120 King Alexandros marvels at the wheel and promises to uphold his ancestor Xerxes I dream of uniting the empire. Road from Larissa to hippodoublis begins. Annnounces we must learn trade and reports treasure found west of greece. However, he dies in battle outside hippadoulis. The house of Phillipus rises to the throne.

5080 Phillipus announces more treasure to the East and abdicates in favor of his son, Phillipus II.

4820 After years of uneventful raiding and exploration the house of Phillipus has no heir. The nobles call for a distant cousin of the house of Savas, Alexandros V, to the throne. Alexandros V calls for settlers to unite the Eastern empire and complete the road. The city of SAVASOPOLIS is founded in the hills northwest of Larissa. Building on the Royal Road continues.

4800 With the Royal Road from Hipp-Savas-Larissa compete the nobles claim the divine mandate of the house of Savas is over. Alexandros V retires to Savasopolis. The Macedonians look for a new king...

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	24-06-2004 08:16									#33
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the new city Savasopolis and the Macedonian Royal Road

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	24-06-2004 14:14									#34
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OK, never mind............started to play and now saw that E is in

So tonight I will take my turn then

	24-06-2004 16:25									#35
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Welcome E

	24-06-2004 18:12									#36
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You even already updated the list

	24-06-2004 18:33									#37
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E, i think you played 10 turns too many...

	24-06-2004 20:47									#38
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I thought 20 turns for the first round? Anyways I might be able to play a second time but from 28 June until August I'll be out of the loop until I finish moving...

	24-06-2004 20:49									#39
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Yeah i opened the turn and it was turn 110. Dont matter though, may as well leave it and play on.

	24-06-2004 21:16									#40
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whoops my bad I did a recount.. sorry but count it against the times I cant play

	24-06-2004 22:23									#41
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hi,


I want to play but i cant conect to multiplayer? Which patche do i have to download? And which file i run it ?
Iam old player of ctp2, and i want to play again. Thanks.

DCC

	24-06-2004 22:58									#42
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Its not multiplayer. You just have to download the savefile and put it in your save folder. Makesure Cradle etc is installed...

	25-06-2004 00:39									#43
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First thanks for answering me. But i dont understand what you mean, and how i do this.

	25-06-2004 00:45									#44
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a few posts up there is a file you need to download and put into your save folder. Then load the savedgame and play for a few turns record your results then save your game, zip it and post here. If I left something out check with Maquiladora or Gig or EPW

	25-06-2004 02:42									#45
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DCC doesnt want to play the succession game, he wants to play MP and doesnt understand that the servers are down even though theres 2 other threads about it, so hes posting IN THE WRONG THREAD AGAIN.

	25-06-2004 06:10									#46
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Welcome E!

BTW it looks like you have the option to see enemy health off. I highly recommend turning it one.

	25-06-2004 07:16									#47
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I forgot to mention that my message texts were all scrambled and I realized I have cradle 1.32 loaded up using modmanager...where did you guys get 1.30b at?

	25-06-2004 07:21									#48
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ugh..you were using a different version? We had lots of problems when Maq used a different version. I think it is probably best that you repeat your turn .

You can download 1.30b from http://www.geocities.com/hexagonia/ctp2.html

	25-06-2004 08:11									#49
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sorry...you guys will have to play without me then....(computer is gone on monday for 4 weeks+)

	25-06-2004 12:14									#50
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E,

if you still want to play tell me today as I only started some turns with your save-file, which we now have to disregard anyway.

If you don't answer till around 13.00 PM GMT I'll assume I have to play.

	25-06-2004 15:10									#51
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Whoever plays it should go back to HuangShang's save making sure theyre using 1.30b, that way at least we can eliminate any doubt that it isnt version conflicts, god forbid anything does **** up again.

	25-06-2004 15:39									#52
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I just downloaded it (I think) again, just to make sure

	25-06-2004 16:17									#53
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Just as a warning: If I can't grab the phone line of my neighbour downstairs, I won't be able to post during the weekend, so don't be surprised to not see any update before Monday morning.

Sorry about, still haven't got DSL or even a phoneline.........

	25-06-2004 22:48									#54
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Hi all,

Sorry for the absence but real life has bogged me down for the week ( ) and let me few occasions to read the threads. Though I am a bit more available now I still have to catch up with the Apolyton CS since the beginning of the week. And some posters are damn productive... at least as far as volume is concerned.

	28-06-2004 19:35									#55
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Gilgamensch has played his turns but can't post as he does not have any access to the Apolyton CS because his company has moved into a new building...

More informations as soon as I have some...

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	29-06-2004 06:31									#56
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E didnt mention errors in his game, not even message errors

	29-06-2004 06:44									#57
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quote: Originally posted by E I forgot to mention that my message texts were all scrambled and I realized I have cradle 1.32 loaded up using modmanager

	01-07-2004 05:07									#58
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ok, i feel stupid

	02-07-2004 06:06									#59
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Any news from Gilgamensch? Its been quite some time.

	02-07-2004 06:13									#60
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quote: Originally posted by EPW Any news from Gilgamensch? Its been quite some time.

He can't post at this time as his company has moved to a new location and he is posting from work (with the consent of his boss)...