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Detroit
Sep 2001
time: 05:36
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...ex-minors_x.htm
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['Sex with a minor, don't go there'
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Billboards, posters and drink coasters will deliver a state campaign to dissuade older men from having sex with underage girls.
The Department of Health will bring the campaign to northern Virginia, Richmond and Roanoke in June and July. The campaign is modeled on a pilot project in July 2003 in Hampton Roads, which the department deemed a success.
The campaign is aimed at reducing the number of young girls who have had children fathered by older men. In 1999 and 2000, men over 18 were responsible for 219 births involving girls who were 13 and 14, the department said in a release Monday.
The department said men older than 21 are three times more likely than junior high school boys to father children with junior high school girls.
Messages such as "Isn't she a little young?" and "Sex with a minor, don't go there" are intended to reduce statutory rape and what the department calls sexual coercion.
"We encourage adult men to talk to their peers and discourage them from pursuing teenagers. What they are doing is unhealthy and against the law," said Robert Franklin, outreach coordinator for sexual violence prevention at the department.
The campaign's message will be on outdoor billboards, 225,000 postcards and coasters and napkins in approximately 150 bars, restaurants and retail establishments in Richmond, Roanoke, Arlington, Falls Church and Alexandria.
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This bothers me for some reason, but I can't put my finger on it..
It might be that it seems to unfairly target the male gender as a whole, as if to sternly remind us all not to succumb to our baser instincts (or "don't go there"), and have sex with minors.
I've seen this a lot in some anti-rape campaigns- the assumption that there is an inherent power imbalance simply based on gender, and we all need to be sternly reminded not to act like beasts 
It's also a little cut-and-dry. The law defines the cut-off between a minor and non-minor at a certain age, but biology doesn't. The assumption that these relationships entail a predator preying on "innocent" teens (assuming they are really that innocent) is also bothersome, it's not that black-and-white in most cases
There's also a lot of leeway among states themselves concerning age of consent for marriage and sex, and this clouds the issue even more, IMO.
Anyway, this bugs me and it's offensive. 
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Guynemer
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C'mon, people.
I spoke with a teacher yesterday; she said one of her 12-year-old female students told her that it is her goal to be pregnant by the end of the eighth grade; the girl's boyfriend is 17.
That, my friends, is ****ed up. If stuff like these billboards does even a little bit to stem the tide, it's worth it.
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Jon Miller
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Originally posted by Guynemer
C'mon, people.
I spoke with a teacher yesterday; she said one of her 12-year-old female students told her that it is her goal to be pregnant by the end of the eighth grade; the girl's boyfriend is 17.
That, my friends, is ****ed up. If stuff like these billboards does even a little bit to stem the tide, it's worth it. |
I knew (hot) 7th and 8th graders whose goals were to be prostitutes
they were well on their way the last time I saw them
Jon Mliler
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:36
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Even the 15 year old boy? Or the 18 year old boy? Does it make it so much worse when the bloke is older, apart from the simple disgust factor, is there a reason? And why can't a 14 year old decide for herself? If she's as mature as most 14 year olds seem to be nowadays, I think she's perfectly capable to decide for herself when she wants to have sex. Personally, I'd consider murder worse than sex with a teenager. |
In my country, if a guy who's 18 has sex with a girl younger than 16, that's a criminal act. And that's damn right. I in no way think that most 14 olds can decide whether they want to have sex. They are not that mature - they may at times act like such, but they are in fact immature, and will go for it to have an "adventure". While I know for a fact that the overwhelming majority of girls who have sex at 14 or 15 regret it afterwards. Mind you, I don't even want to think about cases where the young girls get pregnant, that's completely terrible.
Now, if the guy's 18 and the girl's 17.... it's fine. I guess they both can think for themselves. At 17, the girl, unless completely dumb, should very well be understanding what she's doing.
And of course, murder is worse than having sex with a teenager. Murder is, under usual circumstances, the worst crime.
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Jac de Molay
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Detroit
Sep 2001
time: 05:36
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Originally posted by Solver
In my country, if a guy who's 18 has sex with a girl younger than 16, that's a criminal act. And that's damn right.. |
No I think it's quite wrong, and it's quite wrong to charge someone who's equally young and unresponsible (the 18 yr old) with a serious sex crime like statutory rape over a two or four year age difference. Essentially they're equals in terms of maturity/psychological standard.
In the state of Michigan, such a crime will land you on a permanent sex offender list grouped with the likes of rapists, molesters, and assorted scum.
The fact that the law assigns these arbitrary numbers for age of consent, and then assigns the crime of rape if you cross that line, is bogus and hypocritical.  I'm not advocating it or apologizing for it, but the law is seriously f*cked up when it comes to this.
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That, my friends, is ****ed up. If stuff like these billboards does even a little bit to stem the tide, it's worth it. |
That's another problem I have- it seeks to encourage a young man's friends/peer group to discourage or chastise the behavior when the fact is that guys generally don't nose around in their friend's relationships when it comes to stuff like this. I can't visualize a guy's buddy coming up to him and saying "hey yo, ain't she too young for you". Just not gonna happen...
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Jon Miller
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it does
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