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Winston is offline Winston
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Mar 1999
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1-0 Czechs.

On second thought, I liked it better when it was

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Denmark totally disintegrates.

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Bah.. that third goal was not necessary

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Ach, good thing I watched Attenborouh on BBC2 then.

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Have you ever seen any?


Well, doesn't every shot over the ground, touch the field before ending up in goal?
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Panenka's penalty didn't bounce before the line.

Just suppose it does....

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Ach, good thing I watched Attenborouh on BBC2 then.

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Have you ever seen any?


Well, doesn't every shot over the ground, touch the field before ending up in goal?
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Panenka's penalty didn't bounce before the line.

Just suppose it does....



I must say I was surprised when I heard this 'penalty-kick rule', but when I tried to replay the many penalties in my mind, I must come to the conclusion that you NEVER see any 'rollers' in a penalty shoot out...

So again, if I have understood correctly what the referee said: if the ball bounces on the field before crossing the goal-line, it's a no-score.

(I must add that this is only valid in penalty shoot-outs, as in a penalty in regular time is just followed by the match itself immediately (presumably the regular field game resumes there as soon as the ball hits the field as well))

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-1

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Czech Republic - Denmark 3-0

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1 Dauphin 66 (+3) 2 Kitschum 60 (+3) 3 MikeH 58 (+6) 4 Laertes 57 5 Locutus 56 (+3) 6 Drogue 52 (+3) 7 germanos 51 (+3) 8 Zopperoni 50 (+3) 8 Paul 50 (+3) 10 Sloth 48 (+3) 10 Al'Kimiya 48 (+3) 10 Wernazuma III 48 13 TheArsenal 45 (+3) 14 Kropotkin 44 (+3) 15 Monk 41 (+3) 16 Footie Mad 40 16 OneFootInTheGrave 40 (+3) 16 lightblue 40 16 End Is Forever 40 20 CyberShy 39 (+3) 21 mapet 38 (+3) 21 Park Avenue 38 (+3) 21 Solver 38 (+3) 24 Colon 37 (+3) 24 Victor Galis 37 26 paiktis22 31 (+3) 26 Jamski 31 28 Ambro2000 30 29 VJ 25 30 Winston 20 31 Gangerolf 19 32 DeathByTheSword 17 (+3) 33 Child of Thor 6 (+3) 33 Urban Ranger 6 (+3) 35 Micha 0

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Denmark out with a 0-3 sack in the quarter final, just like in the 2002 World Cup against England.

But overall, the Danish effort in this tourny was ok. They gave us a lot of inspired play, some good entertainment and thrills.

And good luck to the Czechs in the continuation.

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My predictions for the semifinals:

Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-3

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i.
Wanneer een wedstrijd wordt verlengd voor het nemen van een strafschop, eindigt de wedstrijd zodra de strafschop reglementair is uitgespeeld, d.w.z.:
I.
de bal gaat rechtstreeks in het doel; een doelpunt is dan behaald en de wedstrijd is afgelopen zodra de bal het doelvlak geheel en al is gepasseerd;
II.
de bal stuit via de doelpaal of de doellat in het doel; een doelpunt is dan gemaakt en de wedstrijd is afgelopen zodra de bal het doelvlak geheel en al is gepasseerd;
III.
de bal komt in het doel, nadat de doelverdediger hem heeft aangeraakt; er is dan een doelpunt gemaakt en de wedstrijd eindigt zodra de bal het doelvlak geheel en al is gepasseerd;
IV.
de bal gaat over de lijn buiten de doelpalen of over de doellat; de wedstrijd eindigt op het ogenblik dat de bal buiten het speelveld is gekomen;
V.
de bal raakt een doelpaal of doellat en stuit terug in het speelveld; de wedstrijd eindigt op het moment dat de bal in het veld terugstuit.
VI.
de bal wordt duidelijk tegengehouden door de doelverdediger; de scheidsrechter moet dan onmiddellijk de wedstrijd affluiten.

from http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/...ss/regel15.html


It doesn't crearly states what happens if a 'Panenka'-shot hits the field first, but it does stipulate a 'direct'-shot to be taken.

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For the semifinals, I predict:

Portugal - Netherlands 0-2
Greece - Czech Republic 0-2

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-2

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Portugal - Netherlands 2-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-3

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Portugal - Netherlands 0-0
Greece - Czech Republic 0-4

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-2
Greece - Czech Republic 1-0

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-2

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Portugal - Netherlands 3-2
Greece - Czech Republic 1-3

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-2
Greece - Czech Republic 0-2

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  Old Post 28-06-2004 11:02
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3-0. Ouch.

Semi-finals:
Portugal - Netherlands 4-3
Greece - Czech Republic 1-3

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Prtugal Netherlands 3-2
Greece Tsehia 2-0

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@UR's Portugal-Netherlands prediction:

1. the penalty kicks are not supposed to be predicted
2. We got rid of our penalty syndrom

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-2
Greece - Czech Republic 0-0

Final

Netherlands (or Portugal) - Czech (or Greece) 2-0

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Portugal - Netherlands 2-3
Greece - Czech Republic 0-0

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Portugal - Holland 2-1
Greece - Czech Rep 0-2

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Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Greece - Czech Republic 0-2

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OK I'll do mine again

Portugal 3 - Netherlands 2

Grecee 1 Czech 2

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The avg prediction is:
Portugal-Netherlands: 1,6 - 1,6
Greece - Czech: 0,4 - 1,9

16 people believe in total that both Holland and Portugal will make 26 goals.
The total number of goals 16 people gave to Greece is 6 and to Czech is 30.

Thus the poly-prediction is a height change on a draw for Holland-Portugal......

scary

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Heh, I ran a similar survey before Denmark - Sweden in the group stage.

Of the 29 predictions,

9 said Denmark would win
11 said it'd be a draw
9 said Sweden would win

Now since this was a 2-2 tie, we have solid proof that on average, the posters here actually decide the outcome of matches.

Plus the game was fixed anyway

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My heart can't have another penalty shooting after Portugal-Netherlands.
Please someone post a 0-1 for Holland

Winston: for Sweden-Denmark, was the avg number of goals the people predicted even as well?

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Semifinals, 30-06-2004 and 01-07-2004:
29 Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
30 Greece - Czech Republic 0-3

 
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