09-08-2004 17:35									#211
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Clean up the text files? Sure!

Crash from random selection: Aware of this. I don't think it's possible to make it select the new factions, but I could change the picture to say (old faction randomizer: broken. Do not press) or some such. It may be possible to re-size the button if it cannot be eliminated. It's an interesting bug.....er...... feature

Home in a week or so,

Smack

	09-08-2004 19:49									#212
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Acceptance noted.

For the mandibles thing, i changed the line to

When next we meet, I will be blasting your little villages to pieces, $NAME3! Fare poorly!

*goes on to the less creative part...*

	09-08-2004 20:39									#213
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Attached is are the 3 .txt files that have been updated. The spacing and whatnot is all uniformly the same.

Attachment: textupdate.zip
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	09-08-2004 22:17									#215
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Another thing I can do for the mod is put in tons of extra base names... for those of us that like to build like crazy :roll:

That's all explained in the thread about Base Names.

	10-08-2004 02:47									#216
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I saw that...so you're saying that a faction can have limitless base names? If so, please go right ahead.

	10-08-2004 03:43									#217
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I mean make the third button 'The Aldebaran Factions' and build a new button graphic from the faction leader images.

	10-08-2004 05:19									#218
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Speaking of graphics, is the image on the first post of this thread supposed to replace the normal Alpha Centauri Picture that is the backdrop for the main menu of the game?

	10-08-2004 08:03									#219
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Here's what I was getting at in the above post....

(ignore my crappy text styles...)

Two things about it though: I thought it'd be a bit better if we used the actual Alpha Centauri Font that comes with the game.

Second, as you can see, I lazily and roughly represented where the menu buttons are for the game; so you want the game title out of the way.

And someone else can do the actual work for making the text look spiffy and whatnot like in the current image on the first post.

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	10-08-2004 08:47									#220
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YAWN.....

Well I finished doing the faction names, that's a lot of copy/paste/replace/rinse/repeating to do.... for THIRTY factions (super AI and regular both)....
(also two other files, the basenames.txt and a .txt file stating what the different suffixes are for each faction)

It works fine to go ahead an replace all the faction files with these.

Already existing games will treat the lists as completely new and use them. You'll get some duplicate bases, but SMAC is smart enough to add a -2 to the end... i.e. New Rome and New Rome-2.

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	10-08-2004 17:06									#221
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quote: Originally posted by #endgame I mean make the third button 'The Aldebaran Factions' and build a new button graphic from the faction leader images.

I understand. However, I think this might not be possible. The button is linked to randomizing the factions and I've never seen the code that controls the button. Copy?

Thanks for the base names Lord N.

The graphic for the front page has been done. I've not uploaded it yet. I'm on vacation, so give it a week.

	11-08-2004 03:08									#222
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(See Edit 2)

It looks to me like the Nauticons aren't getting their special of no negative affects from Military Production.

I'm 100% sure that I'm playing the regulars, not the AI...

From the aquatic.txt file

#AQUATIC
Nauticons, The Aquatic, Nauticon, M, 2, Skipp, M, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1,
FACILITY, 28, TECH, Industs, SOCIAL, +MORALE, SOCIAL, --RESEARCH, SOCIAL, +INDUSTRY, SOCIAL, -EFFIC, UNIT,1, ROBUST, INDUSTRY, IMPUNITY, Military
Economics, State, INDUSTRY

So I don't know what's wrong... Unless it needs to say SOCIAL before IMPUNITY? Or that Military is not the correct SEC reference?
Or am I thinking of IMMUNITY?

Edit: Also, isnt' the Nauticon supposed to be aquatic? Because they certainly aren't...

Reference:
#PIRATES
Nautilus Pirates, The Buccaneer, Pirates, M, 2, Svensgaard, M, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1,
TECH, Mobile, TECH, DocFlex, SOCIAL, -GROWTH, SOCIAL, -EFFIC, FREEFAC, 28, AQUATIC, 0, FREEABIL, 26
Values, Power, SUPPORT

Dunno if that 0 after AQUATIC is important. My guess is that it is

Edit2: It looks to me like we're trying to do too much with the Nauticon Faction... It already has 9 statements, of which the game only reads the first 8. And that's without Aquatic... I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about.

Edit3: About renaming the Random factions button, i did find the spot for renaming it (though not what choices belong there).
Look near the very bottom of the labels.txt file... Whether you knew this already, I don't know

CHOOSE YOUR FACTIONS
The Original SMAC Factions
The New Factions
Mix Old and New Factions
CHANGE NAME
QUOTE
PLAY RANDOM FACTION
PLAY SELECTED FACTION
RANDOM

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	11-08-2004 09:13									#223
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Ugh, the Nauticon had Aquatic, 0 last time I played them...I wonder how that got dropped?

I was aware of the labels.txt It's the button behavior that I suspect is not accessible. My only hope is that the button shape is defined in system.txt or elsewhere and I can reduce it's size to zero.

See Chaos Theory's posts r/e the number of special faction abilites possible. Still, this doesn't explain how I trimmed their aquatic nature. I've made significant changes since 2.0.9 to several factions and the SE table. I will make sure to incorporate your base names and do some playtesting before the overdue update next week.

-S

	11-08-2004 15:20									#224
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Smacksim, there is a delay in the graphics of the Planetlovers, I bought a new computer and can't access the data on my old one ATM for at least the remainder of this week.

	11-08-2004 15:29									#225
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Why not put the Aldeb factions over the old faction buttons - have the 'Standard Aldeb factions' and the 'SuperAI factions'.

Or you could try the labels.txt thing and change the label to 'DONTPUSHTHISBUTTONUNLESSYOUWANTSMACTOCRASHANDLIKE
DELETINGYOURALPLACENTARUI.INIFILE'

or some similar

and change the graphic to something like a big 'NO' symbol.

	11-08-2004 17:14									#226
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And if that doesn't do the trick, then those continuing deserve a BSOD.

	11-08-2004 18:46									#227
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quote: Originally posted by #endgame Why not put the Aldeb factions over the old faction buttons - have the 'Standard Aldeb factions' and the 'SuperAI factions'. Or you could try the labels.txt thing and change the label to 'DONTPUSHTHISBUTTONUNLESSYOUWANTSMACTOCRASHANDLIKE DELETINGYOURALPLACENTARUI.INIFILE' or some similar and change the graphic to something like a big 'NO' symbol.

One problem there is that we can only have 10 custom factions... but there are 14 or 16 Aldebaran factions... (and I still like using yet another custom faction )

	11-08-2004 19:13									#228
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Alright, I'll kick out the Smac(x) factions and put the Aldebaran starting 14 up there. Making their group picture could be fun. Getting a clear photo of Awen could be tough. The outlaws don't like camera's much

The niggling problem with this is that (and don't be surprised), if we switch the starting factions someone will say 'Hey, can I play Aldebaran with the original factions?' because some people like to open their mouths before having a look around (like some of the relatives I'm visiting). But yeah, it seems most of ye beta testers are much more interested in playing the Aldebaran factions than the old factions, so the switch, on the whole, makes sense.

-S

	11-08-2004 20:33									#229
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Well as long as the relatives don't go looking through and messing with the Aldebaran files on ur laptop or whatever

	11-08-2004 22:51									#230
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Smacksim, there is a delay in the graphics of the Planetlovers, I bought a new computer and can't access the data on my old one ATM for at least the remainder of this week.

Really? What are the specifications?

(Sorry for the unrelated-to-thread question )

	12-08-2004 04:01									#231
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Another bug that im too busy to fix atm.

The Datalinks info for the Brood Pit is incorrect. It's currently showing the info for the Core Mining Facility or something like that.

The CMF itself is lacking any info, so it was prolly a pasting error *shrug*.

This second game of mine is going well. I got a pact sis who gives me her units rather frequently... (i'm ignoring the fact that she bribed me for over 1000 credits earlier)

Another thing; Noodles are just about useless for me.... EIGHTY PERCENT disadvantage is quite severe... At least they still work for destroying sensors and forests :-\

	13-08-2004 03:57									#232
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Not sure how I missed this, but I am definitely checking it out tonight. I miss SMAC and this sounds like it would be a nice return to it!

	13-08-2004 04:21									#233
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Just a stray thought on my part this evening is that has anyone put some thought into doing a new holobook series for this mod? If not, then while I'm sitting round a campfire this weekend why I can give it a go.

D

	13-08-2004 05:45									#234
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Holobook series as in the stuff at the end of the game? Like "recycling tank humor"?

Sounds like a plan to me

I'm gonna go through the base facilities to make sure their descriptions are all correct/complete/in the right spot.

	13-08-2004 05:52									#235
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nword Holobook series as in the stuff at the end of the game? Like "recycling tank humor"? Sounds like a plan to me

Yes, exactly! I really won't have anything else to do, so I think I should be able to come up with a few new quotes here.


btw you had volunteered to play in the Aldebaran Succession game. Are you still interested in doing this? Personally, I'd say go ahead and play the next turn, and lets see what happens from there,


D

	13-08-2004 06:39									#236
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Well, the problem with the base facility descriptions was that the original 4 orbital ones and stockpile engery were misnumbered.
I fixed that and those are all displaying info now, and the ones that they had the same numbers as, are now showing the correct info too.

The info for the Core Fungus Facility was under the apparently old name of Mystery Food thinggummy. Changed that and a small typo in the regular version of the help.txt file, as well.
(to fix the Mystery Food thingy for regular SMAC included changing the alpha.txt file)



That'll be 3 files zipped in the attachment:
Help.txt
Helpx.txt
Alpha.txt

Edit: oh ya, the succession game, I was having so much fun with my own games where my headquarters get blown sky high...

Attachment: helpupdate1.zip
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	14-08-2004 00:28									#237
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Well... I still can't get the Impunity to work for the Nauticon. (yes I reduced the number of different "bonuses", I even made it the second "bonus"...)
Am I right that it is supposed to take away the negative effects of the given SE Choice?

Edit: Ahah... I didn't realize that the impunity didn't show on the table itself. But it's effects are evident in the numbers however

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	14-08-2004 18:10									#238
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That's right. It can be very confusing because there is no note of it on the SE table, only a resulting lack of penalties from a given choice.

-S

	16-08-2004 02:54									#239
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Whats the difference between Impunity, Immunity and Robust?

	16-08-2004 03:33									#240
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#endgame,

There is a great faction editor tutor at http://smac.2be.cc/index.html follow the links that you should check out it explains everything.

I copied this straight from the guide:

ROBUST, [social], Halves the intensity of minus effects in the named social area ("ROBUST, EFFIC" halves minus efficiency effects in social model)

IMMUNITY, [social], Immunity from minus effects in the named social area. ("IMMUNITY, ENERGY" prevents minus energy effects in social model)

IMPUNITY, [social], Impunity from minus effects from a particular social setting. "IMPUNITY, Police State" prevents all negitive effects from "Police State" setting.