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mart7x5
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Any news from Gaians? They keep the save like for 2 days now.
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GeoModder
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The most erratic Overlord!
Jan 2004
time: 06:37
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Ok, how does this sound?
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Lord Administrator, our thanks for your response.
First I like to put right a minor misunderstanding. My title of 'Infotrader' means that I am the choosen person to have diplomatic contacts with other nations, it has nothing to do with the fact that I currently forward our public administrative results to the next faction. So for the time being any message that the Lordship of Diplomacy wishes to bring to our attention may be adressed to me.
The Data Angels are willing to put Industrial Automation on the negotiation table for, naturally, an honest price. We of the Angels do feel however that this technology is quite a milestone for the progress of any faction, and hopes your Lordship of Progress is aware of this. In case the Gaian Union has already an offer ready for the offered technology, we are listening.
And please do tell Lady Deirdre that her fears are unnecessary, not a single dominant native lifeform has been reported extinct within our zone of control. Though we do have second hand information about native killings in progress near one of our borders by others.
Regards,
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I just thought about letting them make the first offer for IndAuto, and the hint towards 'native killings' is an opener for offering the Hive Comlink as part of the deal.
Thoughts?
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:37
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Geo: you might like Eventis, it's a great site, with no purpose. Save spam. Stylish spam 
It's Frozzy's own site, started with DrSpike, Jamski, Skanky, HongHu, Spiffor, myself, etc. but where Jaguar, Kuciwalker, Tassadar, Verto and Joncha also hang out 
The diplomacy forums were invaluble last time, was by far the easiest way to discuss diplomacy, very efficient, and much easier than individual PMs.
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mart7x5
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Just registered to eventis with mart7x5 login
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GeoModder
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The most erratic Overlord!
Jan 2004
time: 06:37
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For those not registered in Eventis, this message was posted there by Ouro_827, who is appearantly the appointed ambassador.
[quote="Aran_827"]To: Infotrader Geomodder
From: Ouro
Greetings from the Gaian people!
I am Lord Ouro, who has been chosen by the Gaians as the head ambassador to the people of the Data Angels. I look forward to working with you and your people. Both my staff and myself are willing to co-operate with your security forces through screening to prevent any unfortunate harm from happening, in the interests of increasing trust. On your part, I ask that you deliver co-ordinates to our pilot of the city we will be based in, or a location where we can rendezvous with your people to be escorted to what will be our new home in the days to come. Now, on to the buisness at hand
In exchange for your technology on Industrial Applications for Automation, I have been authorized to offer in return, the permanent ownership of the spore launcher that is currently in your lands. Please reply with haste.
Sincerly,
Gaian Ambassador to the Data Angels
Lord Ouro
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Can I ask for at least Doc:Flex instead of this? Or do we agree with a unit(s) for tech swap?
It's always possible that the transport foil(s) on which the Gaians came to us are popped, so that they do not have Doc:FLex (yet), but that would be quite an coincidence.
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mart7x5
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If they are fast enough we might come to agreement so that in 2135 some offer will be sent?
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mart7x5
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We should not also reveal too much. Saying that we want Doc Flex in particular might show them our weak spot. They may feel that they would be able to bargin for more. We offer a good tech. I wonder how much they will value it.
And on the other side - would spore launcher give us anything more, apart from possibility of building more of them?
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GeoModder
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The most erratic Overlord!
Jan 2004
time: 06:37
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We received this and I posted that message in Eventis:
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To be frank with you too, we may not be clear, but Lordship of Progress is nearing discovery of Industrial Automation and it's secrets will be known to us soon. Our initial proposal of trade with spore launcher was to provide Angels with a unit that can easily explore xenofungus, which would be a great advantage and speed extraction of our troops.
However is spirit of cooperation we would like to would like to propose alternatative trade. If Angels would have such sight to gift Industrial Automation to Gaian Union in next planetcycle, Gaian Union would be able to redirect all its efforts into a technology that would benefit mutually to both of us. Lorship of Progress is very interested in researching secrets of the Humane Genome next, and if Angels are willing to gift secrets of Industrial Automation to us, we will return the favour to our Angel friends by teaching them secrets of humane genome planetcycle after that.
Further more, our Lordship of Progress suggests a research pact, in which both of our respective research departments will try to coordinate their efforts for more efficient ways of progress on this alien world.
Lord Administrator Illuminatus, on the behalf of High Council
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My fellow diplomat(s),
It was with some anticipation that a response was awaited. Although not as forthcoming as we hoped, it shows progress.
Are we to assume that the Gaian Union has no techs to offer at this time for the exchange of Industrial Automation? You can easily check this by offering all your tech in the diplomatic screen to us and see if anything else then comlinks and worldmap shows up. This said just in case you were not aware of the feature.
Also, the Gaian Union appearantly prefers to have Biogenetics as soon as possible. How quickly does the Union wishes to own this tech?
We might be willing to offer Industrial Automation next time the opportunity comes, but a level 3 tech for a level 1 tech is rather disparitive. Is the Union imperative in changing to Biogenetics as first priority when we transfer Industrial Automation or can we ask you to research a higher level tech if possible?
Also, for another possible trade: would the Union be willing to trade a level 1 tech AND a unit of our choice for Industrial Automation?
The last would be most forthcoming I think, we have some substantial gain on our part while the Union gains two technologies within a few years.
And in response to another topic brought up: mutual beneficial research does sound as an excellent way to cooperate in the future.
Sincerely,
InfoTrader GeoModder |
We're gettin' somewhere. Looks like the Gaians are technically quite backward compared to the other teams OR unwilling to offer Doc:Flex to us.
I try to get a Transport Foil out of this for sure! Even if we may only borrow it for a number of turns. Once we can transfer some or all of our probes on Hiverian shore we're probably free to roam to Spartans and Morgans!
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mart7x5
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It looks very interesting!
- Biogenetics is a very good tech - it allows recycling tanks. One of the best facilities in the whole game since it comes early. If we can get Biogenetics + a unity foil. I would consider it seriously.
- Research agreement sounds good. But there would be revealing of the research status between the two factions completely. We openly say what we have and do not have and they do the same. Can we trust them?
- About spore launcher - we do not probably need that much hiking around fungus? unless on some other continent with heavy "X" stuff
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04-09-2004 08:59
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Looks great! Can't wait to see what their response is.
This offer looks like from Morganities to me. Doctrine: Flexibility is a fair offer. What will we do with an army of spore launchers? fill the canyon with xenostuff?
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