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mart7x5 is offline mart7x5
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 11-10-2004 07:33
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Ok for me.

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  Old Post 11-10-2004 12:48
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And FlameFlash responded positively in a PM as well. Looks like I can give it a thumbs up on the Gaians.

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  Old Post 12-10-2004 02:05
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btw I may have missed all this Eventis stuff. Have we a private Gaian / Data Angels forum or what. If yes then let me (us) know how to get access,
(I think I am registered there) though I have no intention of interceding. We have only one Infotrader and best to keep it that way, but I am thinking of the time when Geo is away.

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Yes, there is a private diplomacy forum for us.
Simply ask Drogue (when he's back) to give you access.

Sofar, I haven't bothered putting all the messages inhere, only the highlights.

Besides, in two turns the InfoTrader job will be even busier I guess.

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Just saw this in the 'Research Treaty' thread on Eventis. Appearantly they made a deal with the Spartans. Seems like we're outtraded atm.

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We are now in possesion of Doctrine: Mobility and Gene Splicing. We have are researching Social Psych and will be complete in 2147.


I've asked when they will transfer Doc:Mob to us so we can switch to Doc:Flex

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  Old Post 12-10-2004 23:49
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The Gaian map of our land Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

As you see, they didn't went very far.

Attachment: toangelsmapinformation.jpg
This has been downloaded 23 time(s).

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  Old Post 13-10-2004 04:55
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No they didn't

Posted in the research thread before I saw this.

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Illu did try to disguise the point at which they entered our land though. Noticed the 'grid' is missing in the black area NE of the strongest Fungal Tower?

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quote:
Originally posted by GeoModder
Illu did try to disguise the point at which they entered our land though. Noticed the 'grid' is missing in the black area NE of the strongest Fungal Tower?


Kind of amusing. Annoying for them to purposefully be misleading as well though...

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Oh, fair is fair. I've given 'hints' as well to put them on the wrong track for their presumptions on us.
Don't worry though, I live up our cont(r)acts to the letter.

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'kay, turn received, comlink received, time for a draft towards the Spartans I guess.

How about this:

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Greetings, members of the Spartan Junta,

If necessary, my apologies for barging in on your private com channels like this. It is purely for efficiency reasons, and to cut some time of perhaps long conversations. I doubt the Spartan Command structure will object to either reason.

To introduce myself: I am InfoTrader GeoModder of the Data Angels and at the moment the liason for talkings with other factions on Planet. Both our factions survided Planetfall and thrived sofar, thus for better or worse we have to get along.

We of the Angels prefer to keep things on a friendly basis and perhaps even trade interesting hardware en information on eachother. Time will tell of course.

Time to wrap up this introduction, feel free to drop a message back with perhaps some info on how the Spartans see this contact and to create an efficient diplomacy channel with the right person on the other side.

IT GeoModder


Don't stagger, I know how it sounds.
Frankly, I think this is the best way to approach the Spartans for how they come over sofar in public.
I intend to dump it to five or so Spartans simultaniously (the ones I observed most posting lately).

Comments?

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  Old Post 17-10-2004 04:46
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Yeah OK I can live with that.
Maybe make yourself more militarly important, like Infotrader (your equilvalent of diplomat) Colonel GeoModder.

Change 'wrap up' to 'end this introduction'
Change 'en information on eachother' to 'and information on each other'

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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 17-10-2004 07:21
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Junta? is this how they recognize themselves?

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Herc: Corrections made. But I think it's better to keep our own title setup, no need to change it to whatever faction we encounter. Don't like to come over as a copycat to them.
Mart: You have a point, I don't have time to confirm this atm so I change it to 'faction'.

quote:
Greetings, members of the Spartan faction,

If necessary, my apologies for barging in on your private com channels like this. It is purely for efficiency reasons, and to cut some time of perhaps long conversations. I doubt the Spartan Command structure will object to either reason.

To introduce myself: I am InfoTrader GeoModder of the Data Angels and at the moment the liason for talkings with other factions on Planet. Both our factions survided Planetfall and thrived sofar, thus for better or worse we have to get along.

We of the Angels prefer to keep things on a friendly basis and perhaps even trade interesting hardware and information on eachother. Time will tell of course.

Time to end this introduction, feel free to drop a message back with perhaps some info on how the Spartans see this contact and to create an efficient diplomacy channel with the right person on the other side.

IT GeoModder


I sent the above, and finish the turn in 18 hours or so.

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  Old Post 17-10-2004 11:44
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Maybe we should develop our own military gradation system.

Infocolonel

sounds somewhat ok

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Infolieutenant
Infogeneral
Infosergant
Infocaptain
Infoadmiral

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Nah, don't see myself in this. We're hackers, operatives and Info'ers, not regular title seekers.

Of course, feel free to poll it.

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And sent!

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We need some kind of military after all. If we all are going to trade techs, who's gonna fight if needed.

We will need also other professions:
infobiologists
infoentertainers
infocooks
or whatever other name there is fitting in it.

I would forgot
infocrawlerdrivers - licensed ofcourse

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Resource hackers (crawler crew)
Covert Commando's.
Infiltrators (the second part of my diplo title atm)
Infoentertainers --> Info'tainers perhaps? sounds more anarchistic.
BioSplicers!! (from Gene Splicing).
...

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Biosplicers,
Genehackers?

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Hey, now that I think of it, the abbrative CoCo's (for Covert Commando's) might bring a smile on a certain mod of the ACDG.

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  Old Post 17-10-2004 20:25
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A response of the Spartan Recording Officer, Googlie.
(and btw, Mart, they do see themself as a Junta appearantly )

quote:

To: InfoTrader GeoModder

From: Lt. Colonel Googlie

We are pleased to finally have contact with the Data Angels

Although not the spokesofficer of the Sparta Federation that you will be customarily dealing with (that honour is accorded to our Officer Commanding Diplomacy, Major Kassiopeia) I have taken the liberty of replying in order to direct your attention to a Virtual Embassy we established in anticipation of this historic occasion.

It's url can be found here:

http://messageboard618350.aimoo.com

and its password is:

jazzfest

I do drop in there from time to time, and look forward to our virtual meeting there in the near future.

Lt. Colonel Googlie

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I'm in, Googlie has set up a base frame. Only me, Kassi and Googlie are in atm.

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  Old Post 17-10-2004 23:36
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First message from the Spartans, it's rather enlighting regarding the Gaians (if it is true, of course).

quote:
Thank you, Lieutenant Colonel. I'm Major Kassiopeia, the Senior Diplomatic Officer, and all official business will be conducted through me. The Junta has high hopes for our future as trade partners.

The first order of business is, naturally, the establishment of a Treaty of Friendship. Standard procedure of the Federation is to start things with a temporary treaty. The reason for this is that we find treaties and agreements of peace a liability to our isolationist policy, since they promote carelessness and factions taking advantage of each other in a most dishonourable manner.

Thus we propose that we sign a Treaty, but a temporary one, that lasts for a duration of five years. After five years we can, if the Datatech faction has proven itself to be deserving of our trust, as we will prove ourselves deserving of yours, the Treaty can be extended further.

Our analysts believe that you are in possession of a technology called High Energy Chemistry. If this is the case, we would be interested in acquiring it from you.

I'd also like to ask - did the Gaian Union sell you our commlink? We were sold yours, so it occurred to me that it's possible they've "double charged" us - after all, only one party needs to have the frequency to contact the other. Yet they sold you ours and us yours on the same turn. Is the case?


So, does this mean then that IF we trade Doc:Mob from the Spartans we don't have to forward Doc:Flex to the Gaians?
Just a thought...

I suppose that, as with the Gaians, we tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing else then the truth.

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Posted this in the Spartan diplo thread:

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Greetings, major Kassiopeia

It is remarkable how our first communications already show an openness from the Spartan side we did not expect, but it also opens some questions.

Firstly, the 5 year temporary Treaty term you are talking about.
Does this mean that in the diplomatic box a Peace Treaty is offered and accepted by both parties which is in case one faction doesn't find the other trustworthy simply disables it or did you mean that we work around the diplomatic box (keeping things as a truce) and have a gentleman's agreement Treaty?

On the matter of the comlink I have to confirm your suspicion. We acquired yours by the Gaians, and offered quite some valuables for it. They seem more free market oriented then one should suspect.

Regarding the question about High Energy Chemistry, may I inquire why it is your analists believe we are in the possession of aforementioned technology?

IT GeoModder

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That acutally kind of ticks me off... re: the greens. Getting played like that, if it's true.

Wish there was a way to confirm it, either way.

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Had some offline conversation with Maniac. The Spartans are pretty willing to trade (things like Doc:Flex, Gene Splicing, Nonl-Math and so on).

They seem to think that we have (or are researching) High Energy Chemistry for we have Applied Physics.

So will we try to trade Doc: Flex from them (within the next 5 years) and change our current research?

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How about getting Doc Flex from spartans
Leave Mobility researching now
Get mobility from Gaians in 5 turns
Switch to something else then - no penalty - give Doc Flex to Gaians for their mobility, we will then have a new tech of our own choice

 
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