28-07-2004 08:10									#331
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I'm sure I built a spaceship part last turn, too...

	28-07-2004 08:12									#332
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Hmm indeed, Jonny has one spaceship Spaced doesn't have any.

	28-07-2004 08:28									#333
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Read the rules, you can't nuke wonders unless there ain't any other targets.

Though I thought I knew the rules well when I was still alive (having printed and scanned for strategies...I thought I must have missed this one when I saw Smiley's post....

However, scanning the rules again, I still don't see it!!

Actually the only part I see that is close to being applicable is "Nukes: cost = 500, destroys 1 enemy city anywhere. Nukes spaces cannot be used"

but this doesn't prevent the nuking of Wonders...am I missing something still??

Also, if this is the case (nuking wonders not allowed, then how are the cities decided? It seems that this route has limited the number of options as the borders are blackened). I take it normal actions cannot take place accross Nuclear Wasteland? (Trade/Spies/Military attacks??)

	28-07-2004 16:06									#334
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er, actually, about it being 6 cities.... it would only be one or two, or I don't know how many. Each city would take 4 nukes because star wars hasn't been destroyed.

	28-07-2004 19:14									#335
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Why do you always confuse me luddy... update coming.

	28-07-2004 19:19									#336
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If the number of nukes sent hit fewer cities then why would Jonny consider me a worthwhile target? I was no threat to him?

Also, I'm sure that I built an SDI.

* duke hopes to resurrect himself by the simple method of lying through his teeth.

	28-07-2004 20:46									#337
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2175 AD
Turn 12

Espionage
Spaced Cowboy sent his spy to Skanky Burn's research labs to make fake discoveries on unhelpful subjects, meanwhile the newly rocket powered and cromed Trojan Horse was running over the new armies of Darkcloud. Darkcloud and Skanky Burn's spy kept eachother occupied trying to outdo eachother.

code:
Trade
Spaced Cowboy -> Darkcloud
           8 caravans 3600/2700
Spaced Cowboy -> Jonny
           7 caravans 3150/2363
Darkcloud ---------> Spaced Cowboy
         11 caravans 3713/4950
Darkcloud ---------> Jonny
           4 caravans 1350/1350
Jonny --------------> Darkcloud
           8 caravans 2700/2700
Jonny --------------> Spaced Cowboy
           7 caravans 2362/3150
Skanky ------------> NASCAR
           9 caravans 729

code:

 
    
    
 
      
Society
 
      
Cities
 
      
Tech
 
      
Army
 
      
Nukes
 
      
SDI
 
      
Gold
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Jonny
 
      
15
 
      
15
 
      
529
 
      
0
 
      
1
 
      
5437
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Skanky Burns
 
      
49
 
      
9
 
      
1720
 
      
0
 
      
0
 
      
2853
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Darkcloud
 
      
13
 
      
15
 
      
0
 
      
0
 
      
0
 
      
13399
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Spaced Cowboy
 
      
19
 
      
15
 
      
1213
 
      
0
 
      
0
 
      
7944
 
    
 

Wonders of the World
The Tower of York WASTED
The Nubile Colosseum of Virgins (9B)
The Trojan Horse of Washintonia WASTED
The Acropolis of Spaced Dudes WASTED
The Silk road to Gregovia (5B)
The Gregorian Mafia (5A)
The Jihad of Paradise (2H)
The Gregorian Rifle Association (4B)
The Gregorian NASCAR races (4A)
The Unnamed KGB (1C)
The Trans Unnamed Railroad (2B)
The University of Unnamed (3C)
The Paradise-12 Project (1J)
The Unnamed Star Wars (2A)

Societies

Paradise
Monarchy
Jonny - Alive
Independent

New Offtopic
Monarchy
Darkcloud - Alive
Independent

Nubile Virgins
Republic
Skanky Burns - Alive
Independent

Gregoria
Despotism
General Ludd - Citizen of Nubile Virgins
Territory of Nubile Virgins

Spaced Homies
Republic
Spaced Dude - Alive
Independent

Washintonia
Despotism
Kuciwalker - Dead
Territory of Spaced Homies

Unamed
Monarchy
Sparrowhawk - Imprisoned
Vassal state of New Offtopic

York
Monarchy
Duke o' York - Radioactive corpse
Nuclear Wasteland

Wars
Skanky Burns-Spaced Cowboy
Darkcloud-Skanky Burns
Jonny-Skanky Burns
Spaced Cowboy-Darkcloud

Tech Prices
10.Mass Education (55)
11. Nuclear Fission (89)
12. Miniaturization (144)
13. Space Flight (233)
14. The Laser (377)
15. Fusion Power (610)

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	28-07-2004 20:49									#338
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Answers to some question and other problems.

You may only make one spaceship part a turn, the KGB hasn't done it's function yet.

	28-07-2004 20:52									#339
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quote: Trade Spaced Cowboy -> Darkcloud 8 caravans 3600/2700

He shouldn't be allowed to trade with me if he attacked.

Interesting that he attacked me, by the way

quote: Darkcloud ---------> Spaced Cowboy 11 caravans 3713/4950

Hmm... I thought I sent all my caravans to Jonny?

	28-07-2004 20:57									#340
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Spaced Cowboy- how'd you get so lucky? if you hadn't have done that, I might have won next turn.

By the way- I only nuked you because you had that **** trojan horse

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	28-07-2004 21:17									#341
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quote: the KGB hasn't done it's function yet.

...won't bother me
-Never had a wonder

*Note: Skanky shouldn't have been able to collect gold on the new cities he captured this turn, correct?

Tax collection comes after war- so he should have 0 gold unless he stored some...

orders sent.

	28-07-2004 21:21									#342
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Excellent playing everyone, with possible exception of Kuciwalker

	28-07-2004 21:30									#343
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud *Note: Skanky shouldn't have been able to collect gold on the new cities he captured this turn, correct? Tax collection comes after war- so he should have 0 gold unless he stored some... orders sent.

Why would I have 0 gold? I didn't capture any cities this turn, so all my cities would give income.

	28-07-2004 22:07									#344
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I think he may of ment Spaced Cowboy.

	29-07-2004 01:27									#345
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I have 1 question?

I sabotaged DC's military production this turn with my spy. How did he build nukes? I thought that i had that base covered.

	29-07-2004 01:28									#346
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I have another question.

How does skanky have a spaceship part if he is only at tech 9?

	29-07-2004 02:21									#347
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Nukes and armies are seperate, I believe.

	29-07-2004 05:57									#348
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No they aren't.

	29-07-2004 06:06									#349
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Hmm, I suppose the wonder rule might of been something that was implemented midway through the last game and wasn't written into the main rule stack.

Trade takes place before war, so if you sneak attack you can still trade that turn.

The phase of production that nukes and SDI go under... this is another gray zone that we've come across for the first time. Cube's judgement call on this sounds fairly good.

	29-07-2004 06:08									#350
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It's not a gray zone!

quote: 3a. Production: Scientific Research 3b. Production: Military (armies, nukes, SDI) 3c. Production: Cities 3d. Production: Wonders and Spaceships 3e. Conquered cities rehabilitated free of charge. Each spy can only target one of the production phases

	29-07-2004 06:08									#351
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*checks first page* Yeah, I guess they are grouped together.

I think they should be seperate, though. Actually, I think espionage might just be better thrown out, or completely overhauled. The way it is right now some acts are insanely crippling while others are next to pointless.

EDIT: Double crosspost.

	29-07-2004 18:39									#352
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Page one is a page that I usually reference when I'm turning in my orders. I saw nukes and armies, and thought...cool, cuz I was going to sabo his spaceship.

	29-07-2004 20:13									#353
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I'll fix things up after lunch.

	30-07-2004 02:17									#354
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Technically I didn't lie because I didn't eat lunch. Fixing now.

	30-07-2004 04:58									#355
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Wow, looks like this game should be over next turn or the one after at the latest.

Smiley...did you get my PM's on this game (2)? I have some questions that I will post here if you haven't a chance to answer them before this game ends, but I didn't want to ask them here as they could effect strategy on the outcome of the finish of this game.

Also, any thought of posting the rules to the Topped thread with the rules of the other games in this forum? Just a thought, I would post them, but it makes more sense to me that you do so.

	30-07-2004 05:05									#356
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Suggestion for defensive spying: allow the use of a spy to defend a certain part of production against all enemy spies targeting that particular phase. Save this for the next game.

	30-07-2004 07:03									#357
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Too late Skanky already used it against me.

	30-07-2004 07:13									#358
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Used what against you??

	30-07-2004 07:35									#359
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Orders sent.

	30-07-2004 17:40									#360
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Used what against you??

A spy to sabotage my spies sent against him.