07-07-2004 11:59									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski *grins* I bet EVERYONE attacked Lj with orders to fight whoever they found there -Jam

Take that you murderous, deceitful fiend!

What happened to I won't attack you the next three turns?

	07-07-2004 13:01									#62
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Hang on, what happened to Round 1? Was that turn supposed to have been labelled round 2?

	07-07-2004 13:05									#63
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Orders sent, btw.

	07-07-2004 13:55									#64
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Sent'em.

	07-07-2004 14:41									#65
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Oh crap. And Lj wanted to ALLY with me???
No I have no ships and three "wonderful" captured bases.

Orders enroute

-Jam

	07-07-2004 14:43									#66
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quote: What happened to I won't attack you the next three turns?

You turned down that offer, so I thought it was fair warning

-Jam

	07-07-2004 14:44									#67
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Rules question: if someone captures your bases, and you survive for whatever reaosn, and later take your bases back, do they count as 'home' bases for you? Or do you need to build new ones for them to count?

EDIT: Spelling.

	07-07-2004 14:46									#68
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I believe in the last game they counted as captured bases, sadly.

-Jam

	07-07-2004 14:49									#69
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That's a bit daft. They should either count as bases before the brackets, or (under the previous game's rules) you should be allowed to build more bases so that you can have the maximum number of home bases even if some of your first six have been captured.

	07-07-2004 14:52									#70
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Hang on a minute. So Jamski sent all of his fleet to L-L's bases and L-L sent all of his fleet to Jamski's bases? And Smiley attacked L-L's - now Jamski's - bases and both Smiley's and Jamski's fleet were annihilated?



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	07-07-2004 14:53									#71
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In the last game such a thing didn't happen.
I think we should decide on that now.

Needless to say, I think they should count as full production bases.

	07-07-2004 14:56									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski quote: What happened to I won't attack you the next three turns? You turned down that offer, so I thought it was fair warning -Jam

Your offer was false, since you publicised my PM to you.
So I thought you deserved a just reward for that treachery.

	07-07-2004 14:57									#73
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Well, you could argue that due to having been fought over at least twice, they wouldn't be in much state for full-capacity production... however, given that there is apparently no cap on the number of self-built bases allowed this time, the only real way to exploit this rule is moot.

	07-07-2004 15:00									#74
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Thanks for your support GT.

	07-07-2004 15:07									#75
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LL offered an alliance with me, and I'm only a footnote to the history of the first game of Galactic Overlord.

	07-07-2004 15:09									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Moments later in the space above Jamski's new bases a similar scene unfolds. "Admiral Smiley, these bases and ships we can detect all belong to Jamski" "Its all the same to me who I kill. Charge!"

This could only have happened if Smiley wanted to attack Jamski at my bases. So if Jamski hadn't attacked, Smiley would have retreated.

	07-07-2004 17:34									#77
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No, if I hadn't attacked, Smiley would have captured your undefended bases, while my fleets valiantly defended my homes against your maruading pirates!

See - no one trusts you after last game - there were three fleets sent to get you on the first turn!

And I vote recaptured bases count as captured bases - the reduction in production was always meant to show that these bases were "damaged goods"

-Jam

	07-07-2004 17:36									#78
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*grins*

I bet EVERYONE will attack Jamski with orders to fight whoever they find there, seeing that Jam has no fleet of his own anymore.

-Smiley

	07-07-2004 18:28									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski See - no one trusts you after last game - there were three fleets sent to get you on the first turn! -Jam

Fools. That's what they are. See if it gets them anywhere. Particularly you Jam.

	07-07-2004 18:33									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski No, if I hadn't attacked, Smiley would have captured your undefended bases, while my fleets valiantly defended my homes against your maruading pirates! -Jam

Wait! This wasn't possible in GO 1. You can't attack the one who takes over the bases. This was the rule.

Who changed the rule and when?

	07-07-2004 18:38									#81
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sent

	07-07-2004 18:48									#82
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Orders sent.

	07-07-2004 19:04									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski And I vote recaptured bases count as captured bases - the reduction in production was always meant to show that these bases were "damaged goods" -Jam

This is to spite me Jam? I always considered the reduction in production was intended to show these bases were different technology, difficult to adjust to the normal production, hence contributing only smaller amount of BPs. The damaged bases can easily be repaired.

	07-07-2004 19:35									#84
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Ok, 4 mistakes.
That was round 1, and Ljube's fleet have been refitted with torpedos.

If last game recaptured bases stayed as captured, then so they shall in this game.
The person this hurts the most is Jamski, btw.

	07-07-2004 19:55									#85
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It was a general agreement among the 3 GM's (Jamski, me, Skanky) that players could give "attack target regardless of who occupies" order. Doing away with this rule could lead to lots of late orders this turn of people trying to cherrypick Jamski.

In regards to the base recapturing, captured bases always are captured bases, this is easier to keep track of. I don't think this hurts Jamski any more or less though, as he has no fleet and can't build another.

	07-07-2004 20:03									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley It was a general agreement among the 3 GM's (Jamski, me, Skanky) that players could give "attack target regardless of who occupies" order.

I would appreciate if you 3 GMs would sometimes care to convey your agreements on the rules of the game to the general population. My turn would have been completely different if I had known this beforehand.

	07-07-2004 20:15									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns If last game recaptured bases stayed as captured, then so they shall in this game.

They did not, but since you are the GM, let's fix this once and for all and let them stay captured if you say so.

	07-07-2004 20:17									#88
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Mmm, Skanky... error report, I ordered my ship yards to build a laser and a fighter cruiser each, not frigates...

O yes, ignore my default orders given for round 2 in the earlier turn, I'll re-evaluate first...

	07-07-2004 21:34									#89
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Hehehe I'm going to die, going to die, going to die



BTW Lj is offering an alliance again. I bet he attacks me regardless.

-Jam

	07-07-2004 22:13									#90
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Orders sent in 2 separate PM's... both matter please skanky!