06-03-2001 08:17									#1
	E-Bay Pop-up Ad Window ... Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Everyone:

... is really annoying and, secondly, doesn't make any sense when it pops up *behind* the main window. Just who the hell put these ad-makers through ad school? ACME Fly-By-Night College Degree School?

Pop-ups s*ck. They s*ck even more when the people making 'em don't have the wherewithal to put the pop-ups in *front* of the main window.

Sheesh.

CYBERAmazon

	06-03-2001 13:12									#2
	Put an end to popups!

send a mail to e-bay...

	06-03-2001 16:00									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I know we've had the discussion about various ads endlessly in the past, but I'd still like to say that the owners of this site should listen more to what the registered users have to say about specific ads and the trend we're experiencing where the ads tend to be more and more annoying/disruptive. IMO it's not enough to advise us to mail the company who paid for the ad...

MarkG, do you want pop up-ads to appear on your site or not? This is not a matter of Gamestats handling the advertising or ebay selecting to pay for a pop up-ad at this time. It's a question of do you, the owners, want pop up-ads?

Send a mail to ebay my foot.

	06-03-2001 16:42									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

whether i like it or not, i cant do much about it. in the end, hundrerds of mails to ebay are better than me complaining to gamestats(asking them to complain to ugo)

	06-03-2001 17:04									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

If it bothered you enough, you could change your affiliation and ad provider. We're on a downslide here with Gamestats/UGO, it'll only get worse I fear.

And there's got to be other more userfriendly as well as lucrative ad providers out there. The competition is there, the question is do you want to take a look at it?

	06-03-2001 18:56									#6
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I wouldn't suggest that, winston. I've been looking for a new host for CGN for months now because I can't get ad revenue with my current situation, and with all the changes in the gaming industry recently, not only have I been unsuccessful, but it seems next to impossible to boot.

	06-03-2001 19:04									#7
	Put an end to popups!

I'm sorry to hear that reismark.

The point is however, it could be considered instead of just putting on a scratched record of "I can't do anything about it". If it's your site, you can do something about it if you're willing to - although it may be difficult.

If you don't do anything to check alternatives out from time to time, you're at risk of becoming enslaved to your current affiliation and advertizer. And UGO is unscrupulous when it comes to advertizing. The examples of this are legio. Do the owners want to continue down this path or do they want to check the alternatives?

Where there's a will, there's a way. Is there a will?

	06-03-2001 19:16									#8
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

The current buzz in such ads is that perhaps small click on banners will be replace with larger ads contaning more of the targeted info and taking up more screen at the website.

	07-03-2001 05:54									#9
	Remove this text

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 03-06-2001 03:12 AM</font>
send a mail to e-bay...
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>

Markos:

You're so direct sometimes, you know that, right?

Anyway, all I got was their form response. Apparently I was one of 10,981 e-mails received that day. I feel like a number, I really do. Anyway, I highly doubt E-Bay designs its own ads ... that kind of stuff is usually shipped out to el cheapo non-union slave outfits in southeast Asia.

CYBERAmazon

	07-03-2001 15:47									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I thought I was loosing my mind or that I drank some bad moonshine when I saw the ebay ad pop up. I have never complained about the ads here because I accept them as neccessary for the site. But pop up ads are the worst. They are the lowest form of internet advertising. And to see them pop up on my screen and not be on a porn site is disturbing. I would email ebay, but I don't want to open my mailbox tomorrow and see that I have 400 new messages.

CYBERAmazon: Thanks for the thread man. Now I know that I am not going crazy and that I won't have to throw out my party drinks.


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	08-03-2001 02:56									#11
	Suffering from ads?

Please please make them stop. I may visit the site less.

	08-03-2001 02:59									#12
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

They suck. Make it stop!

	08-03-2001 03:33									#13
	Suffering from ads?

The pop-ups have just forced me to activate the Proxomitron and bust allads. You'll say it's not fair, but I am browsing on multiple windows and I can't tolerate chaos on my taskbar. I would never click on such an ad anyways; I don't have a credit card so I wouldn't buy anything, even if I wanted to.

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	08-03-2001 05:30									#14
	Tired of ads?

This is out of control. If this isn't corrected hastily, I may be left with no choice but to download proximitron; I didn't want to have to take this action for the sake of Apolyton...

	08-03-2001 07:15									#15
	Support Apolyton

To protest this popup ad, I will click on every ad I find on Apolyton except for that one!

	08-03-2001 09:20									#16
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

The Proximitron does sound like a VERY good idea. Does anyone else need to know where to get it at?

	08-03-2001 10:12									#17
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Markos, it's not just an issue of one pop-up. The ads also seem to mess with having multiple explorer windows open.

It is bad news...

	08-03-2001 11:18									#18
	Increase Your PM Length

I've got better things to do than **** around emailing E-Bay, it would be easier for me to avoid this forum. So MarkG, don't give us this crap that you can't do anything, this is in your court.

Bkeela.

	08-03-2001 11:55									#19
	Inflate your Upload Space

This thing is seriously beginning to piss me off. Like I said before, advertising is fine but these pop-up are the scum of advertising. Surly no one goes to a site just because it pops up on your screen. Ebay can go to hell before I go to their site because of these pop-ups.

	08-03-2001 12:09									#20
	Inflate your Upload Space

as we have said already in the past, we dont have direct control in the ads.

on the specific ad, i believe that if you dont close it, it wont pop up on you again

and if you're using to any kind of program for more than just killing this pop up, all i can say is thank you for killing this site...

	08-03-2001 12:13									#21
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

You will therefore have to reap what you sow. This site is already dead if pop-up's become the order of the day.

Bkeela

	08-03-2001 12:44									#22
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

any computer programmer that designs a pop-up window should be shot

	08-03-2001 12:45									#23
	Full PM-box? Change here!

and that f*cker pops up like every minute now.

I just closed it, and it is back again.

This is taking up bandwith and my computers RAM memory (luckily I have 256 MG's )

	08-03-2001 12:50									#24
	Tired of ads?

OK mark I am closing it.

It just popped up again when I opened this thread window. This out of control.

And how does ad-blocking softwar kill the site? You get paid whether the ads are displayed on our computers or not. Those who get the ad software aren't clicking on the ads anyways. So the hits on the ads sites will be unaffected.

If this goes on I may have to get it. Maybe multiple windows is a problem. I have ACOL and Apolytong windows open right now. And now I have E bay soon as I opened up this post window.

It seems to come up anytime I hit post reply to open up a reply window. Or to edit my post like now it just came up again.


These f*cking a$$holes should be paying ME for taking up MY computer's resources If I was on my old computer, it didn't have enough memory to have more than 2 windows open. It would slow up too bad.
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Dissident (edited March 08, 2001).]</font>

	08-03-2001 13:01									#25
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Dissident on 03-08-2001 02:50 AM</font>
OK mark I am closing it.

It just popped up again when I opened this thread window. This out of control.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>i suggested NOT to close it!

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>And how does ad-blocking softwar kill the site? You get paid whether the ads are displayed on our computers or not.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>who told you that? if the image is not shown on your computer it cant be counted

and if you ever never click an ad then one day the wonderfull company will simply look at their click-trough numbers and decide to go find a better site to show their ads to(as many have)....

	08-03-2001 18:21									#26
	Suffering from ads?

You guys need to lay off Mark.

He does one helluva job with this site, as is proved by the fact that you come here. Whenever a forumer has a problem, he deals with it as promptly as he can. He does his best to make sure that the site runs great for everyone.

However, he is not God. There are somethings out of his control, and for a guy who does a great job, pestering him over somethingthat he doesn't control takes away from his valuable time

	08-03-2001 18:53									#27
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Mark - do you have a suitable e-address at e-bay so that our complaints will be heard to the greatest effect - I had, until today, avoided this dreadful ad - but now cannot seem to get it out of my screen - I shall certainly complain to e-bay once I know who to scream at!!

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	08-03-2001 19:11									#28
	Remove this text

It wouldnt be so bad if there was a cookie or something that told the window only to load once. Not every goddam time you change the page.......

It's apparent bittching about it won't help, so I won't.

	08-03-2001 20:00									#29
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

whine whine whine mark. ban me if you want, but i'm using proximitron.

if you don't give a **** about me, i don't give a **** about you.

	08-03-2001 21:19									#30
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Everyone is being extremely critical of Markos and myself on this issue when we're not the ones you should be talking to, and no, that doesn't mean go to GameStats (me included). Some of you have also gone off the deep end, responding purely out of emotion as opposed to logic -- this is not to say that this is wrong, but rather is destructive.

We too are Web surfers. We hate pop-up banner ads just as much as you do, but when you're a webmaster of a site you have to stop and think about what could be if you didn't have them and be thankful that you have at least some advertising revenue covering your costs so you don't have to worry about it. Thus, you concentrate on what you really want to be doing when you work on your site: content building.

We have had this discussion before.

If you have a concern to voice about this, go directly to UGO and tell them exactly the same things that you're telling us. If they got enough complaints, they would grow concerned that their affiliates will/are losing traffic and they in turn are too.

See also my response in <A HREF=/forums/"/forums/Forum20/HTML/001375.html">this thread</A>.

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