30-07-2004 15:36									#121
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I'm waiting for a reply from Spike at present...

	30-07-2004 15:41									#122
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Orders sent.

	30-07-2004 15:42									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Edit: Of course the relentless espionage efforts from the Alliance will make attacking an impossiibility for Geo.

Really? We didn't think of that.

	30-07-2004 15:45									#124
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Sent.

	30-07-2004 16:01									#125
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Now just Geo's orders to go.

	30-07-2004 16:52									#126
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I'm waiting for a reply from your side, Skanky.

	30-07-2004 17:03									#127
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Stop stalling and face your doom like a man.

	30-07-2004 17:07									#128
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It's time you attack with the weakest ships for a change, Spikie...
Can't remember seeing a *splat* from you...

	30-07-2004 17:13									#129
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All the attacks you shielded against were from both of us.

	30-07-2004 17:32									#130
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I know, but it's the weakest ships who gets smashed, and since you don't have the weakest ships...

Anyway, can't be bothered to wait on Skanky's response.
Orders sent!

Veni, Vidi, Vici!

	30-07-2004 17:47									#131
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The calm before the storm, empire and fleet compositions:

code:




 
Player Name
 
Bases
 
BPs
 
TotalShips
 
Frigates(1)
 
Cruisers(2)
 
Battleships(3)
 
Dreadnaughts(4)
 
Titans(5)
 



 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 
Las
 
Fig
 
Torp
 



 
Dr Spike
 
6(19)
 
69
 
178
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
-
 
1
 
2
 
2
 
2
 
-
 
1
 
56
 
57
 
57
 



 
GeneralTacticus
 
7(17)
 
70
 
196
 
1
 
8
 
8
 
2
 
1
 
1
 
5
 
5
 
5
 
2
 
2
 
2
 
52
 
51
 
51
 



 
Geomodder
 
10(13)
 
76
 
176
 
-
 
1
 
-
 
3
 
-
 
1
 
1
 
1
 
2
 
2
 
1
 
2
 
50
 
57
 
55
 

	30-07-2004 17:54									#132
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder I know, but it's the weakest ships who gets smashed, and since you don't have the weakest ships...

Yeah, sorry for not having weak ships.

	30-07-2004 17:56									#133
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Meh. My fault for building them. They mainly served as an outlet for spare BPs.

	30-07-2004 18:15									#134
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code:
GeoModder	vs	Allies

hp 1702			hp 3482

50LT 2LD 1LB 3LC	108LT 4LD 6LB 2LC 1LF
57FT 1FD 1FB 1FF	108FT 2FD 7FB 1FC 8FF
55TT 2TD 2TB 1TC	108TT 3TD 7TB 1TC 8TF

LLTTFF			FTLTFL

RAW DATA
GeoModder		Allies
-----------------------------------------------
267 lasers		579 fighters
267 lasers		583 torpedoes
291 torpedoes		579 lasers
291 torpedoes		583 torpedoes
293 fighters		579 fighters
293 fighters		579 lasers

close, bunch		default

ADJUSTED DATA
GeoModder		Allies
-----------------------------------------------
1068 lasers		289 fighters	Allies take 779 hits
534 lasers		2332 torpedoes	GeoModder takes 1798 hits

582 torpedoes		1158 lasers	GeoModder takes  576 hits
291 torpedoes		1166 torpedoes	GeoModder takes  875 hits
293 fighters		289 fighters	Allies take   4 hits
293 fighters		2316 lasers	GeoModder takes 2023 hits

1 267 x2(close) x2(l>f) = 1068
  579 x0.5(GeoBunch) = 289
2 267 x2(close) = 534
  583 x2(t>l) x2(GeoBunch) = 2332
3 291 x2(t>l) = 582
  579 x2(close) = 1158
4 291
  583 x2(GeoBunch) = 1166
5 293
  579 x0.5(GeoBunch) = 289
6 293
  579 x2(close) x2(l>f) = 2316

The vast Allied fleet took up positions around GeoModder's empire as a spy sent conflicting orders to GeoModder's attack force. The ship captains were suspicious when movement orders were printed on paper with a DrSpike emblem in the corner, so played it safe and stayed home instead.

Thus, battle was joined.

The fight opened with the allies releasing a swarm of fighters to decend on GeoModder. Reacting quickly to the threat, his fleet moved into a close spearhead formation and powered to point-blank range with their enemies, firing bursts of laser fire at the hapless fighters and capital ships alike. A total of 779 confirmed hits were made before the invasion force launched their second wave.

Torpedos.

The close formation that had saved the fleet from the fighters took its toll under the massive barrage of explosive ammuntion heading towards them. The fleet's laser fire could not track such fast moving targets, and ship after ship was overwhelmed. In that single round, every ship owned by GeoModder was destroyed.

GeoModder has been eliminated
Cooperative victory has been achieved.

All hail Co-Emperors GeneralTacticus and DrSpike!

	30-07-2004 18:18									#135
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

	30-07-2004 18:21									#136
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So, shall we start the sign-up thread for GO3? I'd be happy to GM it, if no-one else desperately wants to.

	30-07-2004 18:23									#137
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I'd like to have a go at playing again, so by all means.
I would recommend no shield stockpiling, and give serious consideration to no spy stockpiling as well.

	30-07-2004 18:24									#138
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Cooperative victory! That suXX0rs. We want more blood. There can be only one. Make them fight one another now.

Alternatively, you could give control of one of the fleets to Ljube......

	30-07-2004 18:28									#139
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We could put a limit on the number of shields you can stockpile at a time... say, 2 or 3. Or we could put a BP cost on shields stockpiled after the first, and maybe the same for spies.

Apart from that, though, I'd be interested to see how a combat system which adjusted fleets at the end of every round would work. It would certainly make the opening shots much more important; at present, it's only worth taking major risks with the first round or two if you can totally destroy the enemy fleet. So long as it has a single hit point left, it can answer with all it's firepower.

Of course, such a system might put a bit too much emphasis on the first few rounds, but I think it's worth a try... and we could always just put an adjustment at the end of the third combat round, if this proved a bit unbalanced.

	30-07-2004 18:31									#140
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A toast with GT over our fallen enemies.

*doc toasts, to dead foes*

	30-07-2004 18:32									#141
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I have some thoughts on rules for the next version. I need to go out now though, so you'll have to wait. I bet you are all on tenterhooks.

	30-07-2004 18:33									#142
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* GeneralTacticus raises a glass.

To victories, past, present, and future, to the death of all foes, and to to a long reign for Houses Tacticus and Spike.

	30-07-2004 19:28									#143
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btw, are we going to see a recap of the game as in GO1? Could be quite interesting to see some of what was going on... and I'd quite like to know what Geo was doing with all those special projects, given that he apparently had no spies and rather less shields than I expected.

	30-07-2004 20:00									#144
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I used a lot of shields midgame to ensure my buildup. Usually was stockpiling 1-3, and then using 1-2 in a row. Nobody noticed simply because I was never attacked prior to the endgame.

And besides, I was working my way in at the same time...

I'm in favour of counting battle damage after each round of battle, 't makes things more for real. A cap of max. 3 shields/spies in stockpile sounds good to me too. Perhaps better to put a cap back on base building as well, or else a decreased extra BP's for any new base after the 6th on top of the higher BP's needed to exceed 6 bases.

Sth else, the game rules states that there can only be one overlord (see intro of the first thread), thus...

I any way:
* GeoModder toasts to the conquerors in his little hide-out... and on the grave of the deceased Emperor Skanky...

Last edited by GeoModder on 30-07-2004 at 20:25

	30-07-2004 22:01									#145
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No coop victories allowed, there can only be one winner. We saw the downfall of Geo, now the alliance must figure out the winner. This game will lose something if one person does not end up the winner.

I like it that alliances are risky, with coop victories, they are not as so.

	30-07-2004 22:14									#146
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There can be only one

Come on, coop victory is against the spirit of the game.

	30-07-2004 22:39									#147
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Besides, if was known before this that Skanky would allow co-op victories, alliances would be formed much sooner, and wield a lot more effect from the start of the game.

It is IMO an interesting idea to incorporate in the next one, but was not made clear beforehand in this one.

	30-07-2004 23:07									#149
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Co-op victory! Pah! To the death I say

Well done though, the alliance held strong and all that.

	30-07-2004 23:21									#150
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Start a new game with a clearer rules set :P