22-08-2004 08:13									#301
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And some of us just don't care anymore...

Comes from having crappy ISP. Though that'll change by the end of next week.

	22-08-2004 08:19									#302
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You're not dead, you could have voted........

ACK!

	22-08-2004 08:30									#303
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Who are you talking to, Tuber, I died of poisoning, that's what the table says, at least.

	22-08-2004 08:38									#304
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It's obviously Spaced Cowboy

	22-08-2004 23:18									#305
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quote: Only the dead not killed by the Mafia want him to win.

yeah, b*stards,

	22-08-2004 23:41									#306
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Spaced Cowboy - 2
Frozzy - 2

We need a vote from Frozzy. On one hand, I think we all have a fairly good idea of who he'll vote. On the other, the game needs to progress, so I'm going flip the coin in 18 hours.

	22-08-2004 23:45									#307
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I'd say if Frozzy can't be bothered to vote in the next 18 hours, it should go against him.

	23-08-2004 00:33									#308
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Who are you talking to, Tuber, I died of poisoning, that's what the table says, at least.

Oh, I looked at the wrong recap box.......

dammit.

ACK!

	23-08-2004 14:16									#309
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Back home, I find myself out of all games. I didn't expect galactic overlord or gladiator to wait for me, but I hoped nobody would vote for me in mafia. Once again the villagers have proven unreasonable. Had I lived, I would have been back in time to cast the deciding vote.

Shame

	23-08-2004 14:21									#310
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Does that mean we get an update of Assassin soon?

	23-08-2004 14:21									#311
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And the cross is a rather blunt clue implicating Obiwan Kenobi. Another indication is the fact he started each dogpile on me.

I might find more if I read the entire thread.

	23-08-2004 14:24									#312
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quote: Originally posted by joncha Does that mean we get an update of Assassin soon?

yes

	23-08-2004 16:07									#313
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quote: Originally posted by joncha I'd say if Frozzy can't be bothered to vote in the next 18 hours, it should go against him.

Two-way ties have been solved with the coin before, so shall be the case now. I do think that to encourage voting we should make a rule of what you are suggesting, but I'm not going to implement new ones mid-game, not at this late a stage.

	23-08-2004 21:18									#314
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quote: And the cross is a rather blunt clue implicating Obiwan Kenobi. Another indication is the fact he started each dogpile on me.

It would only be unexpected had you not levelled an accusation against me.

As it is, the dead continue to speak ill of the villagers trying to save their own skin.

After all, you made a perfect mafia, in having poor net access, such that others took pity on you.

Finally, if I were Mafia why would I need to start a dogpile to off you? Wouldn't it be easier for me to kill you outright, no muss, no fuss?

	24-08-2004 00:41									#315
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Alas, Frozzy has not voted, and it's time to flip the coin. I take it Spaced will probably be the one to call.

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	24-08-2004 00:58									#316
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I vote Spaced, if it's not too late My ISP sucked arse last night.

	24-08-2004 01:02									#317
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It has been too late for many, many hours. Didn't find it necessary to call heads or tails then?

	24-08-2004 01:03									#318
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I couldn't care less.

	24-08-2004 02:10									#319
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In these circumstances, I'll call tails for Frozzy to keep the game going

	24-08-2004 02:16									#320
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Well, Kalius is not interested, so why not. It's 50/50 in any case, and I could get the next part written up before I go to bed.

And what do you know, tails loses: Spaced lives, Kalius dies. Password for the .zip is "deliberation".

	24-08-2004 02:23									#321
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So, who is Sean's next victim?

	24-08-2004 02:53									#322
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I pick heads....oh? too late!

	24-08-2004 03:33									#323
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what drama

	24-08-2004 05:41									#324
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OK, this is a pretty clear case. One killer is Hercules (very strong - the strongest man in history). The other is Ben Kenobi (religious, cross, Christianity). However, since you killed Frozzy, one of the mafias wins unless the one who is about to kill now, I guess it's Sean, kills the other one.

Will both mafias win if they survive, or just the one whose turn to kill comes? I suggest the latter to avoid mafia conspiracies.

	24-08-2004 05:50									#325
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IIRC, the last time that happened both Mafia won.

	24-08-2004 05:57									#326
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Yes, but it was a lame solution.

It's like allied victory in Galactic Overlord. And it opens an avenue for exploitation by the mafias.

	24-08-2004 07:28									#327
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Yes, but it's pretty annoying that if both mafias survive, then the one that wins is whichever happens to be lucky enough to vote in the last night round. There'd be a distinct advantage to being the mafia who got that vote.

Besides, such an occurence SHOULD be rare. It takes a sublimely incompotent villagers (or else actively misleading clues) to have that happen; random chance should insure that a mafia win is rare enough, and a double mafia win is even rarer.

	24-08-2004 09:06									#328
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quote: It's like allied victory in Galactic Overlord.

No, it's not. The Mafia never know of each other (and trying to contact the other is risky business at best), so they can not co-operate. And the other Mafia runs the risk of the other Mafia killing them accidentally or intentionally anyway, so there's motive to gun for the other Mafia too. It's definitely everything BUT the allied victory in GO. Nevermind the fact that a Mafia conspiracy would not wreck the game, because they still only can kill one person a turn together. The villagers will have a fighting chance, if they figure out the clues (granted, it seems they never do unless they're thrown at them ).

Like Snowfire said, I find it unfair that the advantage would be given completely arbitrarily based on who happens to be Mafia #1 or #2. And, like Snowfire said, it's not the fault of either Mafia if the villagers manage to let both live.

	24-08-2004 09:13									#329
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quote: Well, Kalius is not interested, so why not.

I wasn't interested in calling because it was a stupid way to decide. Besides, you asked Spaced to.

	24-08-2004 09:35									#330
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I was assuming ("I take it that") that Spaced will, because you were firmly not present. Either one of the two ones in the tie may call heads or tails, this has been the case before, why would it not be now (unless one of the two completely ignored the toss. Krhm).

What particularly was stupid about it? We could use a new way to solve a tie, but what exactly would it be besides chance?