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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000 time: 22:36
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oh and Winston-- I was just curious and looked at a few sites on naval firepower--from my layman's reading of this stuff, our dozen Halifax class frigates would be as good or better than anything you could send our way. I guess if you don't face a credible naval threat, its hard to justify the expense
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by Winston
It would be quite funny if this current dispute actually pressured Canada into acquiring a massive fleet of icebreaking naval ships and they started patrolling the Arctic waters like mad, always suspecting something funny going on somewhere.
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Actually-- canada should increase its icebreaker capability, irrespective of events in the North
People act like its a big empty north and we need to assert our sovereignty-- I don't get that . .. There are native towns dispersed all around that co-operate with candain authorities. Plus there are oil companies up there all over the place and abiding by Canadian law
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St Leo
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Member of the Apolyton Social Democratic Party
Jul 2005 time: 00:36
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Leo:
Good sir, whose powers are these?
Captain:
They are of Denmark, sir.
Leo:
How purposed, sir, I pray you?
Captain:
Against some part of Canada.
Leo:
Who commands them, sir? 15
Captain:
The nephews to old Denmark, Rasmussen.
Leo:
Goes it against the main of Canada,
Or for some frontier?
Captain:
Truly to speak, and with no addition,
We go to gain a little patch of ground 20
That hath in it no profit but the name.
To pay five dollars, five, I would not farm it;
Nor will it yield to Denmark or the Canuck
A ranker rate, should it be sold in fee.
Leo:
Why, then the Canuck never will defend it. 25
Captain:
Yes, it is already garrison'd.
Leo:
Two thousand souls and twenty billion dollars
Will not debate the question of this straw:
This is the imposthume of much wealth and peace,
That inward breaks, and shows no cause without 30
Why the man dies. I humbly thank you, sir.
Captain:
Vote NDP, sir.
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002 time: 05:36
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Seriously, Canada needs some ice breaker equipped armed vessels so we can actually get up there, otherwise its liking claiming a crater on the moon, or a ridge on the bottom of the ocea.
And Flubber is correct though, there are towns and villages up there, but they're full of Inuit and they barely consider themselves Canadian anyways... aiside from the bigger places like Iqaluit.
Maybe they should make the whole area part of an international Inuit reserve type thing, like they have between the US and Canadian border, so that the actual border would be irrelavent - its all Inuit.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander
Or so they say. |
Well its not easy to hide your presence up there and pretty much anytime an oil company sends a person up there, they are met and monitored by the local inuit band who seem to sit their with their fingers on the speed dial to either their lawyers, the federal government or the media.
Up there you can't install a toilet paper holder without approval of three native authorities of some type and THEN an alphabet soup of geovernmnetal agencies
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO
Is this what the fuss is about? |
I think so-- The reality is that the fight for these barren rocks has very little to do with the rock itself and everything to do with the effect it may have on the boundaries affecting the nearby seas.
Some nations put forth positions claiming that equidistance is the proper test and then apply that principle with respect to even their smallest island. International tribunals usually don't buy into the idea that a tiny island gets equal weight with a coastline but international boundary law is sufficiently unsettled that there is little certainty on anything.
As for "all the fuss", this was the first I had heard of this one. Disputes with France south of Newfoundland and with the US on the Georges bank were the last ones that had any prominance and both those involved areas with active resource harvests. Any determinations up north are unlikely since , frankly, nobody ( teasing between a few Canadians and Danes on here aside) cares
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