15-08-2004 03:39									#121
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse How can something nonexistent be questioned?

Being Canadian means I legally reside in Canada, nothing more.

But my actual point was that no one ever suspects I'm not Canadian, meaning its not a touchy subject for me, since thats what you implied.

And what side of the issue do you stand on, or would you rather continue the petty bickering?

	15-08-2004 03:41									#122
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quote: Being Canadian means I legally reside in Canada, nothing more.

I suppose nobody's ever described to you the difference between "residency" and "citizenship" then.

	15-08-2004 03:44									#123
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That's the reason I can do this:



and have one of these

	15-08-2004 03:44									#124
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Given that I have been eligible (and have) voted in two federal elections, including the most recent one I have much more responsibility for taking decisions on this issue than you do.

So? Any ******* 18 year old in any country with Canadian born parents can vote just as well as you.

And given that I actually live here I would argue that I have more responsibility to remain reasonably informed on the issue, another thing you and I apparently differ on.

But you still haven't addressed the issue, where do you stand on Hans Island? Pro-war I take it?

quote: I suppose nobody's ever described to you the difference between "residency" and "citizenship" then.

I'm a legal alien. Canadian is not a legal term, and can mean whatever you choose it to mean. I choose the broader definition, as in someone who lives in Canada and doesn't plan on moving in the near future.

	15-08-2004 03:46									#125
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse That's the reason I can do this: and have one of these

And in a couple years I will too. Horray for Canada.

	15-08-2004 03:46									#126
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Yankee go home!

	15-08-2004 03:47									#127
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And don't get me started on dual citizenship.

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krazy, what is your point? What does questioning how "Canadian" I am (which is a very parochial and xenophobic thing to do in the first place) have to do with Hans Island?

	15-08-2004 03:48									#129
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	15-08-2004 03:49									#130
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse And don't get me started on dual citizenship.

Whats wrong with it? And don't start on the US not allowing it, because it does. Especially for US born citizens.

	15-08-2004 03:50									#131
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I don't think that citizenship should be spread between countries. You should have to pick one or the other, not get to choose whichever one gets you the most benefits at a specific moment. Citizenship should not be a label of convenience.

	15-08-2004 03:54									#132
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I don't think that citizenship should be spread between countries. You should have to pick one or the other, not get to choose whichever one gets you the most benefits at a specific moment. Citizenship should not be a label of convenience.

Why not? Citizenship isn't free, it'll cost me thousands in the long run to get it here. I paid my dues, I'll come and go from Canada as I please. Or maybe you're just upset at the fact that you can't get a work permit in the US and it'd take you 7 years to get USC after you get a green card (which you never will)... not that you'd ever want USC though.

Anyways, I'm going to step out for some fresh Canadian air. I'll be back to read your next witty one liner soon though.

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Work permit? With a PhD in physics? Gee, that would be really hard. Especially given that 2/3 of the faculty in my department is foreign-born.

For what I want though, it's 1 down, hopefully 3-5 to go until I can go back home again for good with nice faculty job at UofT or UBC.

	15-08-2004 04:01									#134
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I think dual citizenship should be raised as an issue in the next election. Find some cases where a dual citizen was disloyal to Canada or something and set the media on it.

	15-08-2004 04:08									#135
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Like the Arar case?

	15-08-2004 04:10									#136
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Work permit? With a PhD in physics? Gee, that would be really hard. Especially given that 2/3 of the faculty in my department is foreign-born. For what I want though, it's 1 down, hopefully 3-5 to go until I can go back home again for good with nice faculty job at UofT or UBC.

How much do you want to bet you stay in the US?

	15-08-2004 04:30									#137
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Given that much more than half the Canadian-born profs I had at McGill got their PhD in the US, that's a sucker bet for you.

	15-08-2004 04:34									#138
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Can't find it right now but both Canadian and European physics grad students in the US returned home after receiving their PhD at a rate of ~65% circa 2002

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I have to say, this has been a fun read. I love seeing people get pwned

	15-08-2004 04:56									#140
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I'm talking you, personally, Krazy. I believe you will stay in the US.

	15-08-2004 04:58									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I have to say, this has been a fun read. I love seeing people get pwned

I do what I can, Kuci.

	15-08-2004 05:10									#142
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn I'm talking you, personally, Krazy. I believe you will stay in the US.

Why, when I like Canada more than the average Canadian?

quote: I have to say, this has been a fun read. I love seeing people get pwned

It'd be more fun if he would put up a better fight.

	15-08-2004 05:16									#143
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Why, when I like Canada more than the average Canadian?

So much that you decided to leave? Whats wrong with a Canadian grad program?

quote: It'd be more fun if he would put up a better fight.

Haha, its kind of hard to fight against someone who's only response is that Canada can "blow" Denmark's "asses out of the water", and completely disregards the actual issue. I honestly can't tell if you're just trying to get a rise out of me, or if you're really just totally ignorant about the question of Canadian sovereignty over the Arctic.

	15-08-2004 05:21									#144
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse and have one of these

Bah. Then, half of the mossad are Canadian.

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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn So much that you decided to leave? Whats wrong with a Canadian grad program?

They're in nowhere near the same league as top grad schools in the US, beautiful.

So I went to a US grad school for the same reason every other physics grad student does. And I'll return home for the same reason most of the other newly minted PhDs do.

	15-08-2004 05:22									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Bah. Then, half of the mossad are Canadian.

Don't get me started.

	15-08-2004 05:23									#147
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We'll get you right after we take out Denmark.

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Mission accomplished, time to head home.

	15-08-2004 05:25									#149
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse We'll get you right after we take out Denmark.

"take out Denmark"



You don't even have armed icebreakers, fool.

	15-08-2004 05:26									#150
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Come to think of it, Denmark and Israel are pretty similar:

they're both insignifican on the world stage
they both hold extraterritorial claims involving a less-developed population
they both threaten regional stability
they're both in the pocket of the US

the list goes on